[Conkeror] conkeror roadmap

[Mark Eichin]

http://www.thok.org/intranet/python/firefox/index.html should have all
of the pieces of code; it's not in any condition to be packaged, and
it's a sort of idiosyncratic setup: there's an external "listener"
process that manages the save file and restore requests, and a bit of
javascript that pushes the list out (and requests the reload.)  My
page-clipper code is also there.

(Part of the reason the design is the way it is, is because I *like*
python and use it all the time, and try to only do the minimal amount
of javascript necessary to make something work at all.  I'm hoping I
can use python more directly with the xulrunner conkeror, but I can't
use that until I upgrade to Ubuntu Gutsy, and I can't upgrade to Gutsy
until the fglrx/slub/suspend bug is fixed...)

I'd suggest that page-saving is actually something that should be
supplied by the browser infrastructure, like history is, so people
(like me) stop redoing it badly; I could reference The Humane
Interface for discussion of why the user shouldn't even have to
*think* about the idea that browser state could be lost...

On 10/28/07, Luca Capello <luca at pca.it> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:40:37 +0200, Mark Eichin wrote:
> > Another way to put it - conkeror has both frames (X windows) *and*
> > buffers (tabs but without the visual decoration), in the emacs
> > sense.
>
> It seems my explanation was badly enough to let more than one try to
> clarify things.  Anyway, it seems also that you understood what I'm
> missing: *real* tabbed browsing, i.e. multiple buffers organized as
> tabs *with* the visual decoration.
>
> > In my usage, I typically have one frame with 50 to 150 buffers
>
> Quite a lot, I usually have (or try to have) no more than 20
> buffers...
>
> > (and my own conkeror-specific page-saver so that I can log back in
> > and get them all)
>
> This is another thing I'd miss from conkeror and which is very nice to
> have in emacs-w3m (upstream w3m-session or the one at [1]).  Could you
> post you hack on the mailing list, please?  I cannot find it in the
> archive and I'd really like to see it included upstream.
>
> > and occasionally additional single-buffer frames for webapps like
> > gmail, zimbra, hiveminder, and similar web2.0-ish non-browser stuff.
>
> Since I try to use the web the least I can, I prefer to have only one
> browser frame.
>
> I'm aware of the keybindings, but even on emacs-w3m it's nice to have
> a visual "reminder" about the number of browsing buffers opened ;-)
>
> Thx, bye,
> Gismo / Luca
>
> Footnotes:
> [1] http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/WThreeMSession
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