[Enigmail] Gmail is native in TB now (was Re: Sometimes pgp armor unrecognized)

[Barry Smith]

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John:

| FWIW - This is the 'Settings' page /after/ You have logged
| into Your Gmail Webmail and wish to configure POP Retrieval
| for Gmail.

Yes, but these settings do not use the WebMail add-in whatsoever.
They are a "direct connect" configuration for Thunderbird, not
the Thunderbird add-in WebMail.

The original thread which I originally responded to discussed
using WebMail add-in and the GMail extension to download email
to Thunderbird.

I was merely pointing out that TBP is auto-configured for GMail,
and that if ThunderBird is not, it is just a matter of a few
settings.  The page that I provided the link to started out with
"1) Enable POP in your Gmail account." which is a link to
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13273
which walks you through telling GMail that you want to POP your
email.

Further, I was pointing out that the WebMail add-in is NOT
required for POP access to GMail, and it is not.

As I'm finding out, Thunderbird _and_ enigmail require special
settings at each web mailhost (Yahoo, GMail, NetZero, etc) for
Thunderbird _and_ enigmail to function correctly most of the
time.

Yahoo required that I make the line length longer than 72.
I chose 80.  If the line length at the web mailhost is not
set to greater than 72, then the web mailhost webform which
the Thunderbird add-in (WebMail) is getting/pushing to will
wrap the encoded/encrypted plaintext which is being pasted
to it...
~   which is the sum of the problem that most people
~   are having sending signed encrypted email through
~   a web mailhost (Yahoo, GMail, NetZero, Juno, etc)
~   by using the WebMail Add-in.

Sorry, I just realized how confusing this topic could become
talking about "webmail" when there is an add-in named "WebMail".

Clarification -- as I tried to do above when I realized the
problem, "WebMail" will refer to the Add-in, and "web mailhost"
will refer to a mailhost that you can access through the web...
or through "WebMail"/"FreePOPs"/"YPops"/etc.

Sorry for the confusion.

The reference to setting the web mailhost to a linelength of 80
came to me from YahooPOP/YPops... which was the first tool of
this type.  There was a discussion of sending encrypted/encoded
emails through YahooPOP, and the suggestion was made as a part
of installing/configuring YahooPOP to set the Yahoo Mail online
sending options so that pasting encoded/encrypted/HTML mail would
work more easily.

Recently, when the suggestion was made to me to set my Yahoo Mail
online options, and when I actually saw the option, I remembered
another time when I was told to set that value to 80 (or greater)
for more effective email sending... and it wasn't until writing
this email that I remembered where I had seen that suggestion.

I'm done on this topic.

Thanks for all of the lively fruitful discussion.

The time for me to slip back into the shadows is here.

TTYL, friends.

Barry Smith
John W. Moore III wrote:
| -------- Original Message  --------
| Subject: Re: [Enigmail] Gmail is native in TB now (was Re: Sometimes
| pgp    armor unrecognized)
| From: Barry Smith <bnsmith001 at yahoo.com>
| To: enigmail at mozdev.org
| Date: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:17:45 PM
|
| > John,
|
| > Apparently, I _am_ being spoiled by using ThunderbirdPortable.
|
| > I went to the official Thunderbird site, and found no reference
| > to Gmail support... but I did find a link to
| > http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13285&topic=194
| > which _does_ detail the official (non-WebMail) configuration that
| > Google/Gmail suggests for Gmail users using Thunderbird.
|
| FWIW - This is the 'Settings' page /after/ You have logged into Your
| Gmail Webmail and wish to configure POP Retrieval for Gmail.  OTOH,
| Gmail now supports IMAP which may also be configured within T-Bird. ;)
|
| JOHN 8-)
| Timestamp: Wednesday 06 Feb 2008, 19:42  --500 (Eastern Standard Time)
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