[Project_owners] Clarification for a SeaMonkey User
pete at mozdev.org
Sat Sep 13 22:21:44 EDT 2003
> The aim is to make these smaller.
One way to make them smaller is to release them as XPI packages on top
of a *working* GRE/MRE/INSERT_SDK_ACRONYM_HERE
> Maybe not you, but many many people didn't want the bloat. They didn't
> want Composer, Chatzilla ... and all the other extras.
Brian, I did the math. 18.7 M (Firebird/Thunderbird) to 15M Mozilla
App/Bloat Suite. These are compressed not extracted footprint numbers :-)
Now we have everything as a "stand alone" distro which is *increasing"
the bloat not reducing it.
> Signs are that it is being phased out. See (though out of date):
Yes, I read this branding document. Let me sum it up. It is Chris
Blizzards attempt at "semantic nomenclature soup du jour". It doesn't
provide any real useful information.
> "After the release of 1.4 we will be doing our primary development on
> the Firebird and Thunderbird projects. When we do releases of that
> codebase we should be using self-descriptive brand identities for the
> public and the press."
What does that mean though? Continuation of the redundant distribution
of core Mozilla base libraries which is exactly what we have now.
> Again in the branding document, Phoenix/Firebird is supposed to evolve
> into Mozilla Browser, and Thunderbird into Mozilla Mail. This naming
> policy has not happened, and there are no signs that it will.
It seems to me that Mozilla needs to be a MRE. A base set of core
libraries that can run xpinstall. This is something I remember pleading
for at the first developer meeting we held out at Mountain View. A set
of core general purpose xpcom libraries. The architecture is already
modular, Mozilla.org is just distributing their base apps in a
> No, branches are still maintained (1.4, 1.5 ...). For whom I am not
> sure. Legacy reasons perhaps (netscape) ... third party developers?
Well that sucks for the user base out here.
> And Calendar, and Chatzilla, and <insert your favourite extension here>.
I don't look at Chatzilla or Calendar as extensions. They are
applications written on top of the "Mozilla Platform".
Unless I misunderstood you and you mean:
<app> <app> <insert your favourite extension here>.
> Agreed. A clearly defined plan, well publicised and executed .... is
> badly needed.
I think what we have is a very distinct developer base for Mozilla.
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