[Project_owners] International Month

David Fraser davidf at sjsoft.com
Fri Mar 5 14:32:46 EST 2004


Have a look at translate.sourceforge.net, maybe join the mailing list 
and we can discuss it there...
You could, of course, port your Java code to Python instead :-)
Sounds like you have good assumptions.
Our code should be fairly readable, but please let us know if you have 
any questions / comments

David

Dewi Jones wrote:

> I'll be interested in seeing your code and either porting to the Java 
> part of l10nzilla (which is designed to also import and export to a 
> number of formats) or using it to improve what we've already got.
>
> l10nzilla is tied to the assumption that a translation has not only a 
> source and target text but also a file and a label, which seems like 
> almost an universal principle as to what a translation requires. All 
> this information we include for each translation in one po file and 
> try to get in and out of such tools as poEdit but without much success 
> so far :(
>
> Dewi.
>
>
> Ysgrifennodd David Fraser:
>
>> You may just want to use our scripts. They're written in Python, 
>> don't know how that would go down with l10nzilla ...
>> but very flexible.
>> The only thing is, how much is l10nzilla tied to Mozilla-based 
>> assumptions? These can trip you up if you try and use po files from 
>> other formats...
>>
>> David
>>
>> Dewi Jones wrote:
>>
>>> To be honest, that's another feature we're considering supporting in 
>>> l10nzilla - exporting and importing po files. There's some code that 
>>> does this already but needs more work to get it right.
>>>
>>> Dewi
>>>
>>>
>>> Ysgrifennodd David Fraser:
>>>
>>>> And finally you can use any standard PO-editor (poedit for windows, 
>>>> KBabel for KDE, vim, emacs :-)) with the po files produced by the 
>>>> translate.sourceforge.net project.
>>>> If anyone is interested in this approach, let me know
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Dewi Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have also l10nzilla (http://l10nzilla.mozdev.org)  - a Java+ 
>>>>> PHP and MySQL based tool that can allow archiving and translation 
>>>>> online by many translators.
>>>>>
>>>>> XUL (produced by the PHP front end) could be a nice to have 
>>>>> feature in the future, especially for providing a tree view of the 
>>>>> files in a JAR file, but at the moment we're ironing out a few 
>>>>> minor problems and producing more documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dewi.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ysgrifennodd Robert Kaiser:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, it will be very good idea to have some (online or better 
>>>>>>> xul) tool for enduser to translate DTD apps. I.e. representing 
>>>>>>> existing DTD and allowing to input translation line-by-line, 
>>>>>>> then saving result to DTD again. In such a way it will be 
>>>>>>> possible to translate extensinos for much more people than now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is basically such a tool, called MozillaTranslator (MT) 
>>>>>> <http://www.mozillatranslator.org/>. MT basically does work quite 
>>>>>> well, though it might need some work to be really good (again). 
>>>>>> It would need to reflect some changes in XPIs, and it would need 
>>>>>> a few bugs fixed.
>>>>>> Basically it's there and working though.
>>>>>> MT is a Java application, and source code is available on the site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Kaiser
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