From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Sat Mar  1 07:30:50 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:30:50 -0200
Subject: [Project_owners] [FULLY OFFTOPIC] visit to usa
Message-ID: <47C976AA.7090400@buanzo.com.ar>

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Hi guys ;) - I'll be visiting USA for the first time during march 7-17. I'll be in Las Vegas 7-10
and Charllote, NC 10-17. If any of you'd like to join me for a couple of beers, let me know. It'd be
great to meet other extension developers!

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From alta88 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  2 09:02:56 2008
From: alta88 at gmail.com (alta88)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:02:56 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] project tags page crashing minefield?
Message-ID: <fqemjv$24tm$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>


posting here since one has to have an account.. i select tags, 
submit, click on the page somewhere, and Fx loops then 
terminates.  build 20080301.

https://www.mozdev.org/profile/project_tag.html

From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 05:06:33 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:36:33 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] position in xul
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20803030506q2a3e1bes43ce4da38add9048@mail.gmail.com>

hi


<hbox id="*hbox1*">
      <label value="1" />
      <label value="2" />
</hbox>
......
<hbox id="*hbox1*">
        <label value="3" position="1" />
</hbox>


+tow hbox's have same id

I want third label shown first ; (3 1 2) instead (1 2 3)
I need it in overlaying
position does not work!


Tnx
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From antonglv at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 05:15:42 2008
From: antonglv at gmail.com (Anton Glazatov)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:15:42 +0700
Subject: [Project_owners] Invalidate single xul cache entry
Message-ID: <47CBF9FE.4070401@gmail.com>

Hi all

Is there a method exists to accomplish the task described in the letter 
subject ? That is to say,  to invalidate xul cache entry for the only 
single overlay file, without use the 'nglayout.debug.disable_xul_cache' 
preference ?

- Anton

From jesper at selvet.dk  Mon Mar  3 06:26:21 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:26:21 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] position in xul
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20803030506q2a3e1bes43ce4da38add9048@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20803030506q2a3e1bes43ce4da38add9048@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CC0A8D.90601@selvet.dk>

You cannot use the same id. Id's are unique!

joe ertaba wrote:
> hi
>
>
> <hbox id="*hbox1*">
>       <label value="1" />
>       <label value="2" />
> </hbox>
> ......
> <hbox id="*hbox1*">
>         <label value="3" position="1" />
> </hbox>
>
>
> +tow hbox's have same id
>
> I want third label shown first ; (3 1 2) instead (1 2 3)
> I need it in overlaying
> position does not work!
>
>
> Tnx
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   



From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 06:43:57 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:13:57 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] position in xul
In-Reply-To: <47CC0A8D.90601@selvet.dk>
References: <23d9f6b20803030506q2a3e1bes43ce4da38add9048@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC0A8D.90601@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20803030643t1799732oca42d236c6073d2d@mail.gmail.com>

I think it is possible when you want to overlay some hbox ;

> <hbox id="*hbox1*">
>         <label value="3" position="1" />
> </hbox>
this is what i really put to overlay some default hbox
----------
default hbox is
> <hbox id="*hbox1*">
>       <label value="1" />
>       <label value="2" />
> </hbox>

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk>
wrote:

> You cannot use the same id. Id's are unique!
>
> joe ertaba wrote:
> > hi
> >
> >
> > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
> >       <label value="1" />
> >       <label value="2" />
> > </hbox>
> > ......
> > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
> >         <label value="3" position="1" />
> > </hbox>
> >
> >
> > +tow hbox's have same id
> >
> > I want third label shown first ; (3 1 2) instead (1 2 3)
> > I need it in overlaying
> > position does not work!
> >
> >
> > Tnx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Project_owners mailing list
> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
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From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Mon Mar  3 08:03:46 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:03:46 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] position in xul
In-Reply-To: <mailman.75.1204549608.7149.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.75.1204549608.7149.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fqh7h6$28oa$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

joe ertaba wrote:

> <hbox id="*hbox1*">
>       <label value="1" />
>       <label value="2" />
> </hbox>
> ......
> <hbox id="*hbox1*">
>         <label value="3" position="1" />
> </hbox>

Is this in a single document, or a document and an overlay, or two 
separate overlays, or what?

From jesper at selvet.dk  Mon Mar  3 08:06:44 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:06:44 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] position in xul
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20803030643t1799732oca42d236c6073d2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20803030506q2a3e1bes43ce4da38add9048@mail.gmail.com>	<47CC0A8D.90601@selvet.dk>
	<23d9f6b20803030643t1799732oca42d236c6073d2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CC2214.8000503@selvet.dk>

Not possible on the same document.

joe ertaba wrote:
> I think it is possible when you want to overlay some hbox ;
>
> > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
> >         <label value="3" position="1" />
> > </hbox>
> this is what i really put to overlay some default hbox
> ----------
> default hbox is
> > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
> >       <label value="1" />
> >       <label value="2" />
> > </hbox>
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk 
> <mailto:jesper at selvet.dk>> wrote:
>
>     You cannot use the same id. Id's are unique!
>
>     joe ertaba wrote:
>     > hi
>     >
>     >
>     > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
>     >       <label value="1" />
>     >       <label value="2" />
>     > </hbox>
>     > ......
>     > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
>     >         <label value="3" position="1" />
>     > </hbox>
>     >
>     >
>     > +tow hbox's have same id
>     >
>     > I want third label shown first ; (3 1 2) instead (1 2 3)
>     > I need it in overlaying
>     > position does not work!
>     >
>     >
>     > Tnx
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Project_owners mailing list
>     > Project_owners at mozdev.org <mailto:Project_owners at mozdev.org>
>     > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>     >
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Project_owners mailing list
>     Project_owners at mozdev.org <mailto:Project_owners at mozdev.org>
>     https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   



From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 08:28:53 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:58:53 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] position in xul
In-Reply-To: <47CC2214.8000503@selvet.dk>
References: <23d9f6b20803030506q2a3e1bes43ce4da38add9048@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC0A8D.90601@selvet.dk>
	<23d9f6b20803030643t1799732oca42d236c6073d2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC2214.8000503@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20803030828p6967359r4da64c0e50af907a@mail.gmail.com>

It is in two different documents, it works, I Tested it , my problem is how
to change position of third label *only*

i want to bring it uper

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk>
wrote:

> Not possible on the same document.
>
> joe ertaba wrote:
> > I think it is possible when you want to overlay some hbox ;
> >
> > > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
> > >         <label value="3" position="1" />
> > > </hbox>
> > this is what i really put to overlay some default hbox
> > ----------
> > default hbox is
> > > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
> > >       <label value="1" />
> > >       <label value="2" />
> > > </hbox>
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk
> > <mailto:jesper at selvet.dk>> wrote:
> >
> >     You cannot use the same id. Id's are unique!
> >
> >     joe ertaba wrote:
> >     > hi
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
> >     >       <label value="1" />
> >     >       <label value="2" />
> >     > </hbox>
> >     > ......
> >     > <hbox id="*hbox1*">
> >     >         <label value="3" position="1" />
> >     > </hbox>
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > +tow hbox's have same id
> >     >
> >     > I want third label shown first ; (3 1 2) instead (1 2 3)
> >     > I need it in overlaying
> >     > position does not work!
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Tnx
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >     >
> >     > _______________________________________________
> >     > Project_owners mailing list
> >     > Project_owners at mozdev.org <mailto:Project_owners at mozdev.org>
> >     > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >     >
> >
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     Project_owners mailing list
> >     Project_owners at mozdev.org <mailto:Project_owners at mozdev.org>
> >     https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Project_owners mailing list
> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
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From shanec at ActiveState.com  Mon Mar  3 09:31:54 2008
From: shanec at ActiveState.com (Shane Caraveo)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:31:54 -0800
Subject: [Project_owners] position in xul
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20803030828p6967359r4da64c0e50af907a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20803030506q2a3e1bes43ce4da38add9048@mail.gmail.com>	<47CC0A8D.90601@selvet.dk>	<23d9f6b20803030643t1799732oca42d236c6073d2d@mail.gmail.com>	<47CC2214.8000503@selvet.dk>
	<23d9f6b20803030828p6967359r4da64c0e50af907a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CC360A.4080502@ActiveState.com>

joe ertaba wrote:
> It is in two different documents, it works, I Tested it , my problem is how
> to change position of third label *only*
> 

You can use the insertbefore attribute.  A good description of placing 
overlay elements is at http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xultu/overlay.html



From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 10:12:00 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:12:00 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
Message-ID: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Just the other day I finished and release the first version of my first
project ever.

Since I'm quite new at this, and not sure if it works on all platforms and
all targeted versions, I'd like to ask you all to test my extension for me.

It's a Thunderbird extension, which I think must work for all versions 1.5to
2.0.0.* that adds Forward As functionality to Thunderbird's Forward Button
and Message Context menus.

Could some of you please test my extension on different versions and
platforms and also check the website? Any and all feedback is appreciated.

You can find my extension on mozdev: http://forward.mozdev.org/

Onno
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From jesper at selvet.dk  Mon Mar  3 10:16:57 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:16:57 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CC4099.60009@selvet.dk>

Works here in:
version 2.0.0.6 (20071022) Ubuntu 7.10

Onno Ekker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just the other day I finished and release the first version of my 
> first project ever.
>
> Since I'm quite new at this, and not sure if it works on all platforms 
> and all targeted versions, I'd like to ask you all to test my 
> extension for me.
>
> It's a Thunderbird extension, which I think must work for all versions 
> 1.5 to 2.0.0.* that adds Forward As functionality to Thunderbird's 
> Forward Button and Message Context menus.
>
> Could some of you please test my extension on different versions and 
> platforms and also check the website? Any and all feedback is appreciated.
>
> You can find my extension on mozdev: http://forward.mozdev.org/
>
> Onno
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   



From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 10:37:10 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:37:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <47CC4099.60009@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <628156.22740.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Congratulations, Onno!
I don't use T-bird, otherwise I'd try it out.
Eric

--- Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk> wrote:

> Works here in:
> version 2.0.0.6 (20071022) Ubuntu 7.10
> 
> Onno Ekker wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just the other day I finished and release the first version of my 
> > first project ever.
> >
> > Since I'm quite new at this, and not sure if it works on all platforms 
> > and all targeted versions, I'd like to ask you all to test my 
> > extension for me.
> >
> > It's a Thunderbird extension, which I think must work for all versions 
> > 1.5 to 2.0.0.* that adds Forward As functionality to Thunderbird's 
> > Forward Button and Message Context menus.
> >
> > Could some of you please test my extension on different versions and 
> > platforms and also check the website? Any and all feedback is appreciated.
> >
> > You can find my extension on mozdev: http://forward.mozdev.org/
> >
> > Onno
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Project_owners mailing list
> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >   
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> 



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From piecu at go2.pl  Mon Mar  3 11:05:11 2008
From: piecu at go2.pl (Piecu)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:05:11 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>

Onno Ekker pisze:
> Just the other day I finished and release the first version of my first 
> project ever.

Congratulations!

> Since I'm quite new at this, and not sure if it works on all platforms 
> and all targeted versions, I'd like to ask you all to test my extension 
> for me.

Tb 2.0.0.12, Win XP, Polish - works fine.

> Could some of you please test my extension on different versions and 
> platforms and also check the website? Any and all feedback is appreciated.

I'm sending you polish translation, can you include it in a package?

One small suggestion - can you do an upper case of the first character 
of each option in a button menu (as you did on a message context menu)? 
In polish translation of Tb these options are written lower case which 
doesn't look good. Thank you.

-- 
Best regards,
Bartosz Piec
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From piecu at go2.pl  Mon Mar  3 11:07:25 2008
From: piecu at go2.pl (Piecu)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:07:25 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
Message-ID: <47CC4C6D.1020709@go2.pl>

Sorry for the attachment, I though that it would go only to the author...

-- 
Best regards,
Bartosz Piec

From jesper at selvet.dk  Mon Mar  3 11:10:35 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:10:35 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] SPAM?: Re:  My first project
In-Reply-To: <47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
Message-ID: <47CC4D2B.3070900@selvet.dk>

No idea what was written in the language file, but it just looks kinda 
awesome:
Dodaje opcje &amp;Bezpo?rednio / Jako za??cznik&amp; do przycisku 
Przeka? i menu kontekstowego wiadomo?ci.


Piecu wrote:
> Onno Ekker pisze:
>> Just the other day I finished and release the first version of my 
>> first project ever.
>
> Congratulations!
>
>> Since I'm quite new at this, and not sure if it works on all 
>> platforms and all targeted versions, I'd like to ask you all to test 
>> my extension for me.
>
> Tb 2.0.0.12, Win XP, Polish - works fine.
>
>> Could some of you please test my extension on different versions and 
>> platforms and also check the website? Any and all feedback is 
>> appreciated.
>
> I'm sending you polish translation, can you include it in a package?
>
> One small suggestion - can you do an upper case of the first character 
> of each option in a button menu (as you did on a message context 
> menu)? In polish translation of Tb these options are written lower 
> case which doesn't look good. Thank you.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   



From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 11:44:47 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:44:47 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] SPAM?: Re: My first project
In-Reply-To: <47CC4D2B.3070900@selvet.dk>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl> <47CC4D2B.3070900@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <767de81b0803031144s1bf98570te23f7f0986163297@mail.gmail.com>

lol.
I guess I have to take Piecu's word for it that it's Polish for my
extensions description:
Add Inline / As Attachment option to Forward button and Message context menu


On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk>
wrote:

> No idea what was written in the language file, but it just looks kinda
> awesome:
> Dodaje opcje &amp;Bezpo?rednio / Jako za??cznik&amp; do przycisku
> Przeka? i menu kontekstowego wiadomo?ci.
>
>
> Piecu wrote:
> > Onno Ekker pisze:
> >> Just the other day I finished and release the first version of my
> >> first project ever.
> >
> > Congratulations!
> >
> >> Since I'm quite new at this, and not sure if it works on all
> >> platforms and all targeted versions, I'd like to ask you all to test
> >> my extension for me.
> >
> > Tb 2.0.0.12, Win XP, Polish - works fine.
> >
> >> Could some of you please test my extension on different versions and
> >> platforms and also check the website? Any and all feedback is
> >> appreciated.
> >
> > I'm sending you polish translation, can you include it in a package?
> >
> > One small suggestion - can you do an upper case of the first character
> > of each option in a button menu (as you did on a message context
> > menu)? In polish translation of Tb these options are written lower
> > case which doesn't look good. Thank you.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Project_owners mailing list
> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
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From updatescanner at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 11:56:56 2008
From: updatescanner at gmail.com (updatescanner at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:56:56 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] SPAM?: Re: My first project
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0803031144s1bf98570te23f7f0986163297@mail.gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl> <47CC4D2B.3070900@selvet.dk>
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Message-ID: <a3ea80a90803031156p16fbb1d5l1f52540f7bd205d@mail.gmail.com>

While we're on the subject, there's a great translation community at
www.babelzilla.org - highly recommended!

-Pete
updatescanner.mozdev.org

On 03/03/2008, Onno Ekker <o.e.ekker at gmail.com> wrote:
> lol.
> I guess I have to take Piecu's word for it that it's Polish for my
> extensions description:
> Add Inline / As Attachment option to Forward button and Message context menu
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk>
> wrote:
> > No idea what was written in the language file, but it just looks kinda
> > awesome:
> > Dodaje opcje &amp;Bezpo?rednio / Jako za??cznik&amp; do przycisku
> > Przeka? i menu kontekstowego wiadomo?ci.
> >
> >
> > Piecu wrote:
> > > Onno Ekker pisze:
> > >> Just the other day I finished and release the first version of my
> > >> first project ever.
> > >
> > > Congratulations!
> > >
> > >> Since I'm quite new at this, and not sure if it works on all
> > >> platforms and all targeted versions, I'd like to ask you all to test
> > >> my extension for me.
> > >
> > > Tb 2.0.0.12, Win XP, Polish - works fine.
> > >
> > >> Could some of you please test my extension on different versions and
> > >> platforms and also check the website? Any and all feedback is
> > >> appreciated.
> > >
> > > I'm sending you polish translation, can you include it in a package?
> > >
> > > One small suggestion - can you do an upper case of the first character
> > > of each option in a button menu (as you did on a message context
> > > menu)? In polish translation of Tb these options are written lower
> > > case which doesn't look good. Thank you.
> > >
> > >
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From gevazeichner at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 13:08:32 2008
From: gevazeichner at gmail.com (Geva Zeichner)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:08:32 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Change in FF3 rendering of HTML
Message-ID: <de1276f20803031308n7e7b0e12kb61c9626466059bd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Do you might know why does this peace of HTML code look differently between
FF2 and FF3?

<html>
>     <head>
>         <style>
>         div
>         {
>             <!-- -moz-border-radius: 15px; -->
>             <!-- padding: 4px; -->
>         }
>         </style>
>     </head>
>
>     <body>
>
>         <div id="preview" style="background-color: blue;
>                                  position: absolute;
>                                  top: 10px;
>                                  left: 10px;
>                                  padding: 5;
>                                  ">
>             <div id="poster" style="background-color: orange;
>                                     float: left;
>                                     margin: 0 0 -5 0;
>                                     height: 140px;
>                                     ">
>                 <img src="http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/49/56/39m.jpg
> ">
>             </div>
>             <div id="text" style="background-color: red;
>                                   overflow: auto;
>                                   padding: 0 0 0 5;
>                                   width: 250px;
>                                   height: 140px;
>                                   ">
>                 <div id="title" style="background-color: lightgray;">
>                     Capote (2005)
>                 </div>
>                 <div id="rating" style="background-color: lightgreen;">
>                     7.9/10
>                 </div>
>                 <div id="plot" style="background-color: pink;">
>                     Plot: Truman Capote (Hoffman), during his research for
> his book In Cold Blood, an account of the murder of a Kansas family, the
> writer develops a close relationship with Perry Smith, one of the killers.
> Truman Capote (Hoffman), during his research for his...
>                 </div>
>             </div>
>         </div>
>     </body>
> </html>
>
>
Thanks :)

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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 13:14:11 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:14:11 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
Message-ID: <767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Piecu <piecu at go2.pl> wrote:

> One small suggestion - can you do an upper case of the first character
> of each option in a button menu (as you did on a message context menu)?
> In polish translation of Tb these options are written lower case which
> doesn't look good. Thank you.


Hmz. I didn't do the upper case for the first character of each word on the
context menu...
I just reused the strings from the main menu Message menu. Reusing those
strings has the advantage of having my extension localized by itself.

Initially I used only "Inline" and "Attachment", so the strings from the
submenu, as strings for the button text, but then the button label should be
"Forward As".
Then I noticed that in the Options Window on the preference to change the
default forwarding style, it says "Inline" and "As Attachment", so I use
those strings.

It probably won't be too hard to capitalize the first character of each
option in the button menu.
Gives me an opportunity to make a 0.2 version and check if I can get
update.rdf to work too.

Can you point me to the Mozilla Guidelines for Capitalization of Button
Labels?

Onno
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From jesper at selvet.dk  Mon Mar  3 13:17:57 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:17:57 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] SPAM?:  Change in FF3 rendering of HTML
In-Reply-To: <de1276f20803031308n7e7b0e12kb61c9626466059bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <de1276f20803031308n7e7b0e12kb61c9626466059bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CC6B05.8080604@selvet.dk>

lo.

you need to add:
display:inline-block;

to the style of id="text"

Geva Zeichner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do you might know why does this peace of HTML code look differently 
> between FF2 and FF3?
>
>     <html>
>         <head>
>             <style>
>             div
>             {
>                 <!-- -moz-border-radius: 15px; -->
>                 <!-- padding: 4px; -->
>             }
>             </style>
>         </head>
>
>         <body>
>            
>             <div id="preview" style="background-color: blue;
>                                      position: absolute;
>                                      top: 10px;
>                                      left: 10px;
>                                      padding: 5;
>                                      ">
>                 <div id="poster" style="background-color: orange;
>                                         float: left;
>                                         margin: 0 0 -5 0;
>                                         height: 140px;
>                                         ">
>                     <img
>     src="http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/49/56/39m.jpg">
>                 </div>
>                 <div id="text" style="background-color: red;
>                                       overflow: auto;
>                                       padding: 0 0 0 5;
>                                       width: 250px;
>                                       height: 140px;
>                                       ">
>                     <div id="title" style="background-color: lightgray;">
>                         Capote (2005)
>                     </div>
>                     <div id="rating" style="background-color:
>     lightgreen;">
>                         7.9/10
>                     </div>
>                     <div id="plot" style="background-color: pink;">
>                         Plot: Truman Capote (Hoffman), during his
>     research for his book In Cold Blood, an account of the murder of a
>     Kansas family, the writer develops a close relationship with Perry
>     Smith, one of the killers. Truman Capote (Hoffman), during his
>     research for his...
>                     </div>
>                 </div>
>             </div>
>         </body>
>     </html>
>
>
> Thanks :)
>
> -- 
> Get Gmail with Right-To-Left: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2879/
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From jesper at selvet.dk  Mon Mar  3 13:43:04 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:43:04 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] SPAM?: Change in FF3 rendering of HTML
In-Reply-To: <de1276f20803031325m2ecf3eadg5dbe6d9431a9202f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <de1276f20803031308n7e7b0e12kb61c9626466059bd@mail.gmail.com>	
	<47CC6B05.8080604@selvet.dk>
	<de1276f20803031325m2ecf3eadg5dbe6d9431a9202f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CC70E8.5020304@selvet.dk>

Resent to the list as well:

Dunno. I just remembered something about the lines "CSS improvements in
firefox 3" and refound this:
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/CSS_improvements_in_Firefox_3
The very first line gave it away.
The default seems to be "Initial value: inline". Don't know if this is
the default for all Firefox versions.

Geva Zeichner wrote:
> Thanks!
> Works great :)
>
> Do you know why this line is suddenly needed in FF3?
>
> On 3/3/08, *Jesper Staun Hansen* <jesper at selvet.dk 
> <mailto:jesper at selvet.dk>> wrote:
>
>     lo.
>
>     you need to add:
>     display:inline-block;
>
>     to the style of id="text"
>
>     Geva Zeichner wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > Do you might know why does this peace of HTML code look differently
>     > between FF2 and FF3?
>     >
>     >     <html>
>     >         <head>
>     >             <style>
>     >             div
>     >             {
>     >                 <!-- -moz-border-radius: 15px; -->
>     >                 <!-- padding: 4px; -->
>     >             }
>     >             </style>
>     >         </head>
>     >
>     >         <body>
>     >
>     >             <div id="preview" style="background-color: blue;
>     >                                      position: absolute;
>     >                                      top: 10px;
>     >                                      left: 10px;
>     >                                      padding: 5;
>     >                                      ">
>     >                 <div id="poster" style="background-color: orange;
>     >                                         float: left;
>     >                                         margin: 0 0 -5 0;
>     >                                         height: 140px;
>     >                                         ">
>     >                     <img
>     >     src="http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/49/56/39m.jpg">
>     >                 </div>
>     >                 <div id="text" style="background-color: red;
>     >                                       overflow: auto;
>     >                                       padding: 0 0 0 5;
>     >                                       width: 250px;
>     >                                       height: 140px;
>     >                                       ">
>     >                     <div id="title" style="background-color:
>     lightgray;">
>     >                         Capote (2005)
>     >                     </div>
>     >                     <div id="rating" style="background-color:
>     >     lightgreen;">
>     >                         7.9/10
>     >                     </div>
>     >                     <div id="plot" style="background-color: pink;">
>     >                         Plot: Truman Capote (Hoffman), during his
>     >     research for his book In Cold Blood, an account of the
>     murder of a
>     >     Kansas family, the writer develops a close relationship with
>     Perry
>     >     Smith, one of the killers. Truman Capote (Hoffman), during his
>     >     research for his...
>     >                     </div>
>     >                 </div>
>     >             </div>
>     >         </body>
>     >     </html>
>     >
>     >
>     > Thanks :)
>     >
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From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Mar  4 00:56:09 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:56:09 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
	<767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CD0EA9.7040705@mozdev.org>

Onno Ekker wrote:

> Can you point me to the Mozilla Guidelines for Capitalization of Button 
> Labels?

There are no official guidelines that I am aware of. But the standard, 
for English anyway, is for each word to start with a Capital. Other 
languages may differ.

BTW, I tried your extension (Win Vista, FF3.0b3) and it works fine. Good 
work!

- Brian

From piecu at go2.pl  Tue Mar  4 02:39:07 2008
From: piecu at go2.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Bartosz_Piec?=)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:39:07 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] =?utf-8?q?My_first_project?=
In-Reply-To: <47CD0EA9.7040705@mozdev.org>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
	<767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CD0EA9.7040705@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <822d0a5.2d855776.47cd26cb.55db6@o2.pl>

Dnia 4 marca 2008 9:56 Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> napisa?(a):
> > Can you point me to the Mozilla Guidelines for Capitalization of Button 
> > Labels?
> 
> There are no official guidelines that I am aware of. But the standard, 
> for English anyway, is for each word to start with a Capital. Other 
> languages may differ.

I think that Onno wants an instruction how to capitalize the first letter in XUL, not how it should be written in English...

-- 
Best regargs,
Bartosz Piec

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 06:15:41 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:15:41 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <822d0a5.2d855776.47cd26cb.55db6@o2.pl>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
	<767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CD0EA9.7040705@mozdev.org> <822d0a5.2d855776.47cd26cb.55db6@o2.pl>
Message-ID: <767de81b0803040615m43264fb8oba69653cde372fdb@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Bartosz Piec <piecu at go2.pl> wrote:

> Dnia 4 marca 2008 9:56 Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> napisa?(a):
> > > Can you point me to the Mozilla Guidelines for Capitalization of
> Button
> > > Labels?
> >
> > There are no official guidelines that I am aware of. But the standard,
> > for English anyway, is for each word to start with a Capital. Other
> > languages may differ.
>
> I think that Onno wants an instruction how to capitalize the first letter
> in XUL, not how it should be written in English...


I was actually looking  for guidelines. More specifically for instruction on
which words to capitalize where, becauce in the Message menu I see both
"Forward As" and "Reply to", which doesn't seem consistent...

I can probably figure out how to capitalize the first letter of each word
from javascript and use that to update the menu...

Onno
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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Mar  4 10:47:49 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:47:49 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
Message-ID: <200803041347.49398.silfreed@silfreed.net>

Mozdev is considering discarding high-scoring spam destined for mail lists by 
default across all lists.  We're looking to drop mail with a spam score >= 
10.  How to people feel about this and would it help/hurt their mailing 
lists?

-Doug

-- 
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 10:59:22 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:29:22 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] position in xul
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	<47CC0A8D.90601@selvet.dk>
	<23d9f6b20803030643t1799732oca42d236c6073d2d@mail.gmail.com>
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I tried insertbefore  attribe too but it doesn't works too !

<hbox id="*hbox1*">
      <label id="id1" value="1" />
      <label value="2" />
</hbox>
......
<hbox id="*hbox1*">
        <label value="3" insertbefore  ="id1" />
</hbox>

1 2 3 again instead of 3 1 2 !

any help ?




On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Shane Caraveo <shanec at activestate.com>
wrote:

> joe ertaba wrote:
> > It is in two different documents, it works, I Tested it , my problem is
> how
> > to change position of third label *only*
> >
>
> You can use the insertbefore attribute.  A good description of placing
> overlay elements is at
> http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xultu/overlay.html
>
>
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From whitedavidp at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 11:06:32 2008
From: whitedavidp at yahoo.com (David White)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:06:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
Message-ID: <755970.13861.qm@web58002.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

That would be great for me. I have to change my list processing to get 
this. David (ThunderPlunger/TBirdBiff)

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Mozdev is considering discarding high-scoring spam destined for mail
lists by 
> default across all lists.  We're looking to drop mail with a spam
score >= 
> 10.  How to people feel about this and would it help/hurt their
mailing 
> lists?
> 
> -Doug
> 
> 
> 
>
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From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Tue Mar  4 11:14:43 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:14:43 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
In-Reply-To: <200803041347.49398.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <200803041347.49398.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47CD9FA3.8050409@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Mozdev is considering discarding high-scoring spam destined for mail lists by 
> default across all lists.  We're looking to drop mail with a spam score >= 
> 10.  How to people feel about this and would it help/hurt their mailing 
> lists?

Sounds good to me.

Matthew

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 11:15:46 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:15:46 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <47CD0EA9.7040705@mozdev.org>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>	<767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CD0EA9.7040705@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <47CD9FE2.4090003@gmail.com>

Brian King wrote:
>
> BTW, I tried your extension (Win Vista, FF3.0b3) and it works fine. Good 
> work!
>   
Urm... I had only specified Thunderbird in my chrome.manifest, because 
it's a mail forward extension.
It might also work on Seamonkey, but then I probably need to convert the 
chrome.manifest to the old format. And I thought Seamonkey has different 
menus and buttons too, which would make the need for my extension smaller.
But Firefox 3 beta 3? Haven't figured out how to forward my mail with it 
yet...


From myk at mozilla.org  Tue Mar  4 12:07:36 2008
From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:07:36 -0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
In-Reply-To: <200803041347.49398.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <200803041347.49398.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47CDAC08.4000805@mozilla.org>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Mozdev is considering discarding high-scoring spam destined for mail lists by 
> default across all lists.  We're looking to drop mail with a spam score >= 
> 10.  How to people feel about this and would it help/hurt their mailing 
> lists?
>   
Sounds like a good idea.  I generally don't manage my list queue anyway, 
preferring to let messages eventually expire out of the queue (at the 
acknowledged cost of not approving non-spam that gets in there 
accidentally).

Another useful list-related improvement would be to allow list owners to 
turn off the daily mail notifying them about the number of messages in 
the queue.

-myk


From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Mar  4 12:31:02 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:31:02 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
In-Reply-To: <47CDAC08.4000805@mozilla.org>
References: <200803041347.49398.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<47CDAC08.4000805@mozilla.org>
Message-ID: <200803041531.02519.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Tuesday 04 March 2008 15:07:36 Myk Melez wrote:
> Sounds like a good idea. ?I generally don't manage my list queue anyway,
> preferring to let messages eventually expire out of the queue (at the
> acknowledged cost of not approving non-spam that gets in there
> accidentally).
>
> Another useful list-related improvement would be to allow list owners to
> turn off the daily mail notifying them about the number of messages in
> the queue.

If you don't want daily notifications about held messages, the best thing you 
can do is to ensure no messages get held for moderation by Mailman.  You 
should be able to accomplish this by following the steps on this page:

http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevListAdminTips

-Doug

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From myk at mozilla.org  Tue Mar  4 12:46:26 2008
From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:46:26 -0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
In-Reply-To: <200803041531.02519.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <200803041347.49398.silfreed@silfreed.net>	<47CDAC08.4000805@mozilla.org>
	<200803041531.02519.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47CDB522.6020903@mozilla.org>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> If you don't want daily notifications about held messages, the best thing you 
> can do is to ensure no messages get held for moderation by Mailman.  You 
> should be able to accomplish this by following the steps on this page:
>
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevListAdminTips
>   
Ah, I had three of those four options set but not the fourth 
(generic_nonmember_action).  I've set it now.  Hopefully it'll make the 
difference.

Thanks for the tip!

-myk


From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 13:17:26 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:17:26 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
In-Reply-To: <47CDB522.6020903@mozilla.org>
References: <200803041347.49398.silfreed@silfreed.net>	<47CDAC08.4000805@mozilla.org>	<200803041531.02519.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<47CDB522.6020903@mozilla.org>
Message-ID: <47CDBC66.7000508@gmail.com>

Myk Melez wrote:
> Douglas E. Warner wrote:
>   
>> If you don't want daily notifications about held messages, the best thing you 
>> can do is to ensure no messages get held for moderation by Mailman.  You 
>> should be able to accomplish this by following the steps on this page:
>>
>> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevListAdminTips
>>   
>>     
> Ah, I had three of those four options set but not the fourth 
> (generic_nonmember_action).  I've set it now.  Hopefully it'll make the 
> difference.
>   
I don't think discarding non-member postings is a good idea.

All the extension pages get a list.html template page that gives 
everyone easy access to post to their mailing list.
It doesnt't say you need to be a member to maill to the list.
Also all the extensions have a disclaimer by default, telling people to 
send a mail to the mailing list for questions and comments.

If you change this option as suggested, you should also update your 
website...

Onno
> Thanks for the tip!
>
> -myk
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>   


From davidwboswell at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 13:22:22 2008
From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:22:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
In-Reply-To: <47CDBC66.7000508@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20807.20359.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> I don't think discarding non-member postings is a good idea.

I agree that for many projects this doesn't make sense, but for other
projects this could work fine.  Personally I don't think this is
something we can set globally, unlike other settings which are more
universally applicable (like turning off having a notice sent out every
time a new moderated message comes in).

David

From saleemshafi at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 14:51:06 2008
From: saleemshafi at gmail.com (Saleem Shafi)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600
Subject: [Project_owners] FF3 tooltip positioning
Message-ID: <f7b402910803041451j2658376elf2732546c967506@mail.gmail.com>

hello all..

i'm just coming off a sleep-deprived night of trying to figure out why my
firefox plugin's statusbarpanel no longer displays the tooltip in FF 3b3..
turns out that the tooltip works just fine, it just doesn't position very
well so when the Firefox window is maximized or too close to the bottom of
the screen, the tooltip disappears..  even when the bottom of the window is
sufficiently lifted off the bottom of the screen, the tooltip ends up
rendering below the window instead of above it..

i double-checked and this happens in FF2, as well, except that FF2 seems to
recognize that the tooltip won't display properly when the window is too
close the to bottom of the screen and then positions the tooltip above the
element instead of below..  any idea if there's a work-around for this?  or
where i should submit a bug for it?

thanks,

Saleem.
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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 14:57:31 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:57:31 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>	
	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>
	<767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CDD3DB.2020403@gmail.com>

Onno Ekker wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Piecu <piecu at go2.pl 
> <mailto:piecu at go2.pl>> wrote:
>
>     One small suggestion - can you do an upper case of the first character
>     of each option in a button menu (as you did on a message context
>     menu)?
>     In polish translation of Tb these options are written lower case which
>     doesn't look good. Thank you.
>
>
> Hmz. I didn't do the upper case for the first character of each word 
> on the context menu...
> I just reused the strings from the main menu Message menu. Reusing 
> those strings has the advantage of having my extension localized by 
> itself.
>
> Initially I used only "Inline" and "Attachment", so the strings from 
> the submenu, as strings for the button text, but then the button label 
> should be "Forward As".
> Then I noticed that in the Options Window on the preference to change 
> the default forwarding style, it says "Inline" and "As Attachment", so 
> I use those strings.
>
> It probably won't be too hard to capitalize the first character of 
> each option in the button menu.
> Gives me an opportunity to make a 0.2 version and check if I can get 
> update.rdf to work too.
>
> Can you point me to the Mozilla Guidelines for Capitalization of 
> Button Labels?
>
> Onno
>

Bummer.
I finished version 0.2 and put it on downloads some time ago now.
After that I uploaded update.rdf and tried to get my extension updated 
on my own computer, but it doesn't work.
I figured I forgot to include an updateURL in install.rdf of version 
0.1, so I inserted that line in my installed version in my profile:
                   
em:updateURL="http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/update.rdf"

This should probably do the trick, once the mirrors kick in?
Be advised: if you downloaded forward-0.1.tb.xpi, you won't get updates...

Onno

From jesper at selvet.dk  Tue Mar  4 22:06:22 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:06:22 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] FF3 tooltip positioning
In-Reply-To: <f7b402910803041451j2658376elf2732546c967506@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f7b402910803041451j2658376elf2732546c967506@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CE385E.7050004@selvet.dk>

There is a lot of attributes to position of tooltip.
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XUL:Attribute:popup.position
Maybe one of them works right?

Saleem Shafi wrote:
> hello all..
>
> i'm just coming off a sleep-deprived night of trying to figure out why 
> my firefox plugin's statusbarpanel no longer displays the tooltip in 
> FF 3b3..  turns out that the tooltip works just fine, it just doesn't 
> position very well so when the Firefox window is maximized or too 
> close to the bottom of the screen, the tooltip disappears..  even when 
> the bottom of the window is sufficiently lifted off the bottom of the 
> screen, the tooltip ends up rendering below the window instead of 
> above it..
>
> i double-checked and this happens in FF2, as well, except that FF2 
> seems to recognize that the tooltip won't display properly when the 
> window is too close the to bottom of the screen and then positions the 
> tooltip above the element instead of below..  any idea if there's a 
> work-around for this?  or where i should submit a bug for it?
>
> thanks,
>
> Saleem.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   



From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Wed Mar  5 03:28:44 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:28:44 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] FF3 tooltip positioning
In-Reply-To: <mailman.110.1204671075.7149.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.110.1204671075.7149.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fqm05g$18dv$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Saleem Shafi wrote:

> i double-checked and this happens in FF2, as well, except that FF2 
> seems to recognize that the tooltip won't display properly when the 
> window is too close the to bottom of the screen and then positions the 
> tooltip above the element instead of below..  any idea if there's a 
> work-around for this?  or where i should submit a bug for it?

Fx3 should do this too, but it might be a regression as the popup code 
was rewritten, so you should write a minimal testcase and submit a bug 
to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

From brian at mozdev.org  Wed Mar  5 05:13:12 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:13:12 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] My first project
In-Reply-To: <47CD9FE2.4090003@gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803031012t4b7f473am73ef657de8e326ed@mail.gmail.com>	<47CC4BE7.9090409@go2.pl>	<767de81b0803031314h3084dc72p3d3e116561d1fc7f@mail.gmail.com>	<47CD0EA9.7040705@mozdev.org>
	<47CD9FE2.4090003@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CE9C68.3080603@mozdev.org>

Onno Ekker wrote:
> Brian King wrote:
>> BTW, I tried your extension (Win Vista, FF3.0b3) and it works fine. Good 
>> work!
>>   
> Urm... I had only specified Thunderbird in my chrome.manifest, because 
> it's a mail forward extension.
> It might also work on Seamonkey, but then I probably need to convert the 
> chrome.manifest to the old format. And I thought Seamonkey has different 
> menus and buttons too, which would make the need for my extension smaller.
> But Firefox 3 beta 3? Haven't figured out how to forward my mail with it 
> yet...

Ok, ok, I made a typo! It was TB2.0.0.12 I tested on of course.

- Brian

From saleemshafi at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 19:11:41 2008
From: saleemshafi at gmail.com (Saleem Shafi)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:11:41 -0600
Subject: [Project_owners] FF3 tooltip positioning
In-Reply-To: <fqm05g$18dv$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.110.1204671075.7149.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<fqm05g$18dv$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <f7b402910803051911g52798c40y87ec687691c81874@mail.gmail.com>

thanks..  i did enter a bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421010, and it's visible with
the Greasemonkey extension, as well, so hopefully someone will be able to
take a look at it..  there was another bug describing something suspiciously
similar but it was fixed 5 years ago..  if the code was re-written, perhaps
the old bug resurfaced.

Saleem.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Neil <neil at parkwaycc.co.uk> wrote:

> Saleem Shafi wrote:
>
> > i double-checked and this happens in FF2, as well, except that FF2
> > seems to recognize that the tooltip won't display properly when the
> > window is too close the to bottom of the screen and then positions the
> > tooltip above the element instead of below..  any idea if there's a
> > work-around for this?  or where i should submit a bug for it?
>
> Fx3 should do this too, but it might be a regression as the popup code
> was rewritten, so you should write a minimal testcase and submit a bug
> to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Thu Mar  6 04:14:07 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:14:07 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get update to work
Message-ID: <767de81b0803060414o4e94cb67u691e423a5673f7d8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I thought I understood how Thunderbird checks for updates, but it doesn't
work for my extension, so I must do something wrong. I've looked over it a
couple of times, removed all the signing stuff, rereleased and reinstalled
original version, waited for mirrors to sync, etc, but it still doesn't
work.

This is what I have done:
- forward-0.1-tb.xpi contains an install.rdf with updateurl
http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/update.rdf
- update.rdf contains information for version 0.2, with updatelink
http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/forward-0.2-tb.xpi
- forward-0.2-tb.xpi is the new version

Do I misunderstand the way Thunderbird looks for updates, or doesn one of
the files contain wrong information?

Can someone tell me what's wrong with my logic?

Can someone please tell me how I can debug/monitor the update process? That
is, on Windows, with a normal Thunderbird build? At the moment it's a
blackbox: I click "Find updates" and Thunderbird says: "No updates were
found." I can't see what URL's it is checking and what it does with the
returned information...

Can someone please look at the files and tell me what's wrong with them?
They can all be downloaded from http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward

I know I'm not the first having problems with updates, and hate to give in
my attempts to figure it out, but it's causing me too much time, and I have
the feeling I'm missing something...

Thanks in advance,

Onno
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From gjm at strg.at  Thu Mar  6 06:58:59 2008
From: gjm at strg.at (Gerry Murphy)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:58:59 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Discarding high scoring spam to lists
In-Reply-To: <mailman.109.1204665752.7149.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.109.1204665752.7149.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fqp0rl$2fjt$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

David Boswell wrote:
>> I don't think discarding non-member postings is a good idea.
> 
> I agree that for many projects this doesn't make sense, but for other
> projects this could work fine.  Personally I don't think this is
> something we can set globally, unlike other settings which are more
> universally applicable (like turning off having a notice sent out every
> time a new moderated message comes in).

If nobody objects I'll change this also (admin_immed_notify to false) 
when the filter to delete high scoring spam is added to all lists.

greetings,
gerry.

From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Thu Mar  6 09:11:09 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:11:09 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get update to work
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0803060414o4e94cb67u691e423a5673f7d8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803060414o4e94cb67u691e423a5673f7d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D025AD.7040509@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>

Onno Ekker wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I thought I understood how Thunderbird checks for updates, but it 
> doesn't work for my extension, so I must do something wrong. I've looked 
> over it a couple of times, removed all the signing stuff, rereleased and 
> reinstalled original version, waited for mirrors to sync, etc, but it 
> still doesn't work.
> 
> This is what I have done:
> - forward-0.1-tb.xpi contains an install.rdf with updateurl 
> http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/update.rdf
> - update.rdf contains information for version 0.2, with updatelink 
> http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/forward-0.2-tb.xpi
> - forward-0.2-tb.xpi is the new version
> 
> Do I misunderstand the way Thunderbird looks for updates, or doesn one 
> of the files contain wrong information?

If I try to load your RDF in Firefox, I get Page Info showing that the 
content type is "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml". This won't work I 
think; text/xml or text/rdf would be OK; I wouldn't be surprised if 
application/rdf+xml worked too now.

Matthew

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Thu Mar  6 10:34:06 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:34:06 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page
Message-ID: <200803061334.06546.silfreed@silfreed.net>

Something Mozdev.org has lacked for awhile now has been a project overview 
page that shows you a nice overview of a project with links to tools for a 
project as well as some basic information and stats.

As part of working on secure installations for projects I needed a page that 
showed the available downloads for a project and I thought it would be a good 
time to put together a page that had a little more information on it as well.

Mockup [1]

There's a lot going on in this mockup; we have:
* Project name and description
* Project's tags
* Links to available tools
* Project activity
* Project stats (downloads, page views, hits)
* Extensions a project publishes
* Files that have been released by a project
* Secure installation of extensions

With all this information there (and potentially more in the future) we want 
to make sure it's not too crowded and that the information is relevant.

Let us know if you have any suggestions on how we can tweak things to make the 
information more usable for both people browsing for a project and for 
developers.

-Doug

[1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/files/www/project-overview-mockup.png

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org
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From jesper at selvet.dk  Thu Mar  6 10:40:00 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:40:00 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page
In-Reply-To: <200803061334.06546.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <200803061334.06546.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47D03A80.6040508@selvet.dk>

Sweet! - Not really much to add but saying it looks like some very nice 
work there.
Question though: Will this info be on the projects webpage or on drupal?
Since some might want to have the design follow their project webpage. 
(cant think of any though...)

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Something Mozdev.org has lacked for awhile now has been a project overview 
> page that shows you a nice overview of a project with links to tools for a 
> project as well as some basic information and stats.
>
> As part of working on secure installations for projects I needed a page that 
> showed the available downloads for a project and I thought it would be a good 
> time to put together a page that had a little more information on it as well.
>
> Mockup [1]
>
> There's a lot going on in this mockup; we have:
> * Project name and description
> * Project's tags
> * Links to available tools
> * Project activity
> * Project stats (downloads, page views, hits)
> * Extensions a project publishes
> * Files that have been released by a project
> * Secure installation of extensions
>
> With all this information there (and potentially more in the future) we want 
> to make sure it's not too crowded and that the information is relevant.
>
> Let us know if you have any suggestions on how we can tweak things to make the 
> information more usable for both people browsing for a project and for 
> developers.
>
> -Doug
>
> [1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/files/www/project-overview-mockup.png
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   



From silfreed at silfreed.net  Thu Mar  6 10:59:34 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:59:34 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page
In-Reply-To: <47D03A80.6040508@selvet.dk>
References: <200803061334.06546.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<47D03A80.6040508@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <200803061359.35017.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Thursday 06 March 2008 13:40:00 Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> Question though: Will this info be on the projects webpage or on drupal?
> Since some might want to have the design follow their project webpage.
> (cant think of any though...)

Actually it was originally planned that it would be on www.mozdev.org's site 
(ie, there would be a page for each project).

The main reasoning is that there is that the only SSL-enabled site is 
www.mozdev.org and this is required to do secure installations.

-Doug

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org
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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Thu Mar  6 11:10:52 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:10:52 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get update to work
In-Reply-To: <47D025AD.7040509@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
References: <767de81b0803060414o4e94cb67u691e423a5673f7d8@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D025AD.7040509@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <767de81b0803061110j5ef778c6iedd1af75d3f9ef02@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Matthew Wilson <matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> Onno Ekker wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I thought I understood how Thunderbird checks for updates, but it
> > doesn't work for my extension, so I must do something wrong. I've looked
> > over it a couple of times, removed all the signing stuff, rereleased and
> > reinstalled original version, waited for mirrors to sync, etc, but it
> > still doesn't work.
> >
> > This is what I have done:
> > - forward-0.1-tb.xpi contains an install.rdf with updateurl
> > http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/update.rdf
> > - update.rdf contains information for version 0.2, with updatelink
> > http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/forward-0.2-tb.xpi
> > - forward-0.2-tb.xpi is the new version
> >
> > Do I misunderstand the way Thunderbird looks for updates, or doesn one
> > of the files contain wrong information?
>
> If I try to load your RDF in Firefox, I get Page Info showing that the
> content type is "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml". This won't work I
> think; text/xml or text/rdf would be OK; I wouldn't be surprised if
> application/rdf+xml worked too now.
>
> Matthew


I think the "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml" content-type gets added by
Firefox because of the file extension or the way files as served. If I
rename it to update.txt, Firefox displays its content type as plain/text.

Anyway, your comment sent me on the right track.
I rewrite the update.rdf, and changed my local extensions.rdf to point to
file:///... and it works with the new content. Seems I or McCoy changed the
format to something that wasn't supported.
And most of the docs are for Firefox and Thunderbird is lagging?

That leaves one question unanswered:
Can someone please tell me how I can debug/monitor the update process? That
is, on Windows, with a normal Thunderbird build? At the moment it's a
blackbox. I can't see what URL's it is checking and what it does with the
returned information...

Onno
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From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Thu Mar  6 11:27:39 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:27:39 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get update to work
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Onno Ekker wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Matthew Wilson 
> <matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk <mailto:matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>     Onno Ekker wrote:
>      > Hi,
>      >
>      > I thought I understood how Thunderbird checks for updates, but it
>      > doesn't work for my extension, so I must do something wrong. I've
>     looked
>      > over it a couple of times, removed all the signing stuff,
>     rereleased and
>      > reinstalled original version, waited for mirrors to sync, etc, but it
>      > still doesn't work.
>      >
>      > This is what I have done:
>      > - forward-0.1-tb.xpi contains an install.rdf with updateurl
>      > http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/update.rdf
>      > - update.rdf contains information for version 0.2, with updatelink
>      > http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/forward-0.2-tb.xpi
>      > - forward-0.2-tb.xpi is the new version
>      >
>      > Do I misunderstand the way Thunderbird looks for updates, or
>     doesn one
>      > of the files contain wrong information?
> 
>     If I try to load your RDF in Firefox, I get Page Info showing that the
>     content type is "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml". This won't work I
>     think; text/xml or text/rdf would be OK; I wouldn't be surprised if
>     application/rdf+xml worked too now.
> 
>     Matthew
> 
> 
> I think the "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml" content-type gets added by 
> Firefox because of the file extension or the way files as served. If I 
> rename it to update.txt, Firefox displays its content type as plain/text.

No, the server is deducing the content type based on the file extension. 
Firefox isn't changing it.

I tried to load the update.rdf a couple more times, and got different 
content types back each time. So I don't think you can rely on it 
working. Normally these update.rdfs are in the www directory of a mozdev 
project, not in downloads. I would recommend that you change yours to do 
this.

> Anyway, your comment sent me on the right track.
> I rewrite the update.rdf, and changed my local extensions.rdf to point 
> to file:///... and it works with the new content. Seems I or McCoy 
> changed the format to something that wasn't supported.
> And most of the docs are for Firefox and Thunderbird is lagging?
> 
> That leaves one question unanswered:
> Can someone please tell me how I can debug/monitor the update process? 
> That is, on Windows, with a normal Thunderbird build? At the moment it's 
> a blackbox. I can't see what URL's it is checking and what it does with 
> the returned information...

In Firefox, you can set the preference extensions.logging.enabled to 
true; or, if the worst comes to the worst, directly edit 
nsExtensionManager.js in the components directory. I assume these both 
work in Thunderbird.

Matthew

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Thu Mar  6 14:57:34 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:57:34 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get update to work
In-Reply-To: <47D045AB.8070506@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
References: <767de81b0803060414o4e94cb67u691e423a5673f7d8@mail.gmail.com>	<47D025AD.7040509@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>	<767de81b0803061110j5ef778c6iedd1af75d3f9ef02@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D045AB.8070506@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <47D076DE.1090000@gmail.com>

Matthew Wilson wrote:
> Onno Ekker wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Matthew Wilson 
>> <matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk <mailto:matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     Onno Ekker wrote:
>>      > Hi,
>>      >
>>      > I thought I understood how Thunderbird checks for updates, but it
>>      > doesn't work for my extension, so I must do something wrong. I've
>>     looked
>>      > over it a couple of times, removed all the signing stuff,
>>     rereleased and
>>      > reinstalled original version, waited for mirrors to sync, etc, but it
>>      > still doesn't work.
>>      >
>>      > This is what I have done:
>>      > - forward-0.1-tb.xpi contains an install.rdf with updateurl
>>      > http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/update.rdf
>>      > - update.rdf contains information for version 0.2, with updatelink
>>      > http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/forward-0.2-tb.xpi
>>      > - forward-0.2-tb.xpi is the new version
>>      >
>>      > Do I misunderstand the way Thunderbird looks for updates, or
>>     doesn one
>>      > of the files contain wrong information?
>>
>>     If I try to load your RDF in Firefox, I get Page Info showing that the
>>     content type is "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml". This won't work I
>>     think; text/xml or text/rdf would be OK; I wouldn't be surprised if
>>     application/rdf+xml worked too now.
>>
>>     Matthew
>>
>>
>> I think the "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml" content-type gets added by 
>> Firefox because of the file extension or the way files as served. If I 
>> rename it to update.txt, Firefox displays its content type as plain/text.
>>     
>
> No, the server is deducing the content type based on the file extension. 
> Firefox isn't changing it.
>
> I tried to load the update.rdf a couple more times, and got different 
> content types back each time. So I don't think you can rely on it 
> working. Normally these update.rdfs are in the www directory of a mozdev 
> project, not in downloads. I would recommend that you change yours to do 
> this.
>
>   
I've changed the update.rdf, but it's still in the same location, and 
now it does work...
>> Anyway, your comment sent me on the right track.
>> I rewrite the update.rdf, and changed my local extensions.rdf to point 
>> to file:///... and it works with the new content. Seems I or McCoy 
>> changed the format to something that wasn't supported.
>> And most of the docs are for Firefox and Thunderbird is lagging?
>>
>> That leaves one question unanswered:
>> Can someone please tell me how I can debug/monitor the update process? 
>> That is, on Windows, with a normal Thunderbird build? At the moment it's 
>> a blackbox. I can't see what URL's it is checking and what it does with 
>> the returned information...
>>     
>
> In Firefox, you can set the preference extensions.logging.enabled to 
> true; or, if the worst comes to the worst, directly edit 
> nsExtensionManager.js in the components directory. I assume these both 
> work in Thunderbird.
>
>   
Indeed, setting extensions.logging.enabled to true works and shows all 
datasources and RDFItemUpdatres on the Error Console. I should have 
known this setting, while I was still trying to get it working! Thanks 
for the tip!

Onno

From jesper at selvet.dk  Thu Mar  6 21:53:28 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:53:28 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get update to work
In-Reply-To: <47D076DE.1090000@gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803060414o4e94cb67u691e423a5673f7d8@mail.gmail.com>	<47D025AD.7040509@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>	<767de81b0803061110j5ef778c6iedd1af75d3f9ef02@mail.gmail.com>	<47D045AB.8070506@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
	<47D076DE.1090000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D0D858.6070401@selvet.dk>

Onno Ekker wrote:
> Matthew Wilson wrote:
>   
>> Onno Ekker wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Matthew Wilson 
>>> <matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk <mailto:matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Onno Ekker wrote:
>>>      > Hi,
>>>      >
>>>      > I thought I understood how Thunderbird checks for updates, but it
>>>      > doesn't work for my extension, so I must do something wrong. I've
>>>     looked
>>>      > over it a couple of times, removed all the signing stuff,
>>>     rereleased and
>>>      > reinstalled original version, waited for mirrors to sync, etc, but it
>>>      > still doesn't work.
>>>      >
>>>      > This is what I have done:
>>>      > - forward-0.1-tb.xpi contains an install.rdf with updateurl
>>>      > http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/update.rdf
>>>      > - update.rdf contains information for version 0.2, with updatelink
>>>      > http://downloads.mozdev.org/forward/forward-0.2-tb.xpi
>>>      > - forward-0.2-tb.xpi is the new version
>>>      >
>>>      > Do I misunderstand the way Thunderbird looks for updates, or
>>>     doesn one
>>>      > of the files contain wrong information?
>>>
>>>     If I try to load your RDF in Firefox, I get Page Info showing that the
>>>     content type is "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml". This won't work I
>>>     think; text/xml or text/rdf would be OK; I wouldn't be surprised if
>>>     application/rdf+xml worked too now.
>>>
>>>     Matthew
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml" content-type gets added by 
>>> Firefox because of the file extension or the way files as served. If I 
>>> rename it to update.txt, Firefox displays its content type as plain/text.
>>>     
>>>       
>> No, the server is deducing the content type based on the file extension. 
>> Firefox isn't changing it.
>>
>> I tried to load the update.rdf a couple more times, and got different 
>> content types back each time. So I don't think you can rely on it 
>> working. Normally these update.rdfs are in the www directory of a mozdev 
>> project, not in downloads. I would recommend that you change yours to do 
>> this.
>>
>>   
>>     
> I've changed the update.rdf, but it's still in the same location, and 
> now it does work...
>   

Possible reason it just worked: mozdev.org uses mirrors to host the 
downloads folders, and they're all using different server setups. So if 
it just worked today, then it might not work tomorrow or the next 
minute. So you save yourself the trouble then you should use mozdevs 
default/recommended location for the update.rdf


From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Fri Mar  7 02:38:36 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:38:36 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get update to work
In-Reply-To: <47D0D858.6070401@selvet.dk>
References: <767de81b0803060414o4e94cb67u691e423a5673f7d8@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D025AD.7040509@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
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	<47D045AB.8070506@mjwilson.demon.co.uk> <47D076DE.1090000@gmail.com>
	<47D0D858.6070401@selvet.dk>
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Jesper wrote:


> I've changed the update.rdf, but it's still in the same location, and
> > now it does work...
> >
>
> Possible reason it just worked: mozdev.org uses mirrors to host the
> downloads folders, and they're all using different server setups. So if
> it just worked today, then it might not work tomorrow or the next
> minute. So you save yourself the trouble then you should use mozdevs
> default/recommended location for the update.rdf


I can't find the location for update.rdf in the recommendations on  docs |
mozdev.
Only page I find on updates and releases is
MozdevDownloadReleases<http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDownloadReleases>,
which does not say anything on the location of update.rdf.

I've also searched in mozilla docs, and in Install Manifests -
MDC<http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Install_Manifests#updateURL>it
does say that the content-type for
update.rdf must be either text/rdf or text/xml, but with
extensions.logging.enabled and using Find update for my project, I see it
getting the rdf info and ending with a status 8 all the time, so it seems
that application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml also works. Haven't verified the source
in nsExtensionManager.js though.

Maybe mozdev and mozilla docs need some clarification on the matter...

Onno
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From myfirstnamehere at gawab.com  Fri Mar  7 10:33:03 2008
From: myfirstnamehere at gawab.com (Benoit Renard, msnmsgr)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:33:03 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1204828459.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.2.1204828459.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fqs1p7$1vn1$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

The mockup looks great. Some of that info would definitely help to gauge 
extension popularity. Currently I do a Google search for that from time 
to time.

From fireinice at gmail.com  Sat Mar  8 10:09:00 2008
From: fireinice at gmail.com (fireinice)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:09:00 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] What's the differents between the events generated
	by keyboard and createEvent method?
Message-ID: <a91720c10803081009k7705140fhdc18dc05187149f0@mail.gmail.com>

I am writing a script to work with google reader. As we know google reader
has some shortkeys. And I want to use the codes below to simulate some
keystrokes to make some work automatically done.

    var event = document.createEvent('KeyboardEvent');
    event.initKeyEvent('keypress', true, true, null, false, false, true,
false, 0, character.charCodeAt(0));
    document.dispatchEvent(event);

The codes did fantastic work with google reader until about two days ago. It
seems like that google upgraded its codes. And the reader does not response
to this codes any more even "keyup" and "keydown" event. However, the
shortkeys are working as usual.
So what's the defferents between the event that generates from a literal
keystroke and one that creates by createEvent method in a javascript script?
How google codes can identify them?
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From jesper at selvet.dk  Sun Mar  9 06:18:57 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:18:57 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Share variables between open browsers
In-Reply-To: <47C03868.8080200@selvet.dk>
References: <47C03868.8080200@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <47D3E3C1.4020100@selvet.dk>

Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> I have noticed that if I start a firefox browser, then all of the 
> information in my statusbar is the same between all of the open tabs in 
> that browser.
> But if I start another firefox browser then that browsers information 
> differs from the first opened browser.
>
> How do I make sure that all of the firefox browsers share variables 
> between them?
>
>   
I dont really see how I should use the .idl files. They seem kind of 
useless.


From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 14:02:27 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:32:27 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] menulist persist
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20803091402v6c293101uc066b7caa1df7cf@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I want to persist menulist selected menuitem , any idea ?

<menulist>
<menupopup>
<menuitem label="option 1" value="1"/>
<menuitem label="option 2" value="2"/>
<menuitem label="option 3" value="3"/>
<menuitem label="option 4" value="4"/>
</menupopup>
</menulist>

where to put persist attribe and how ?
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From enndeakin at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 18:18:31 2008
From: enndeakin at gmail.com (Neil Deakin)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:18:31 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] menulist persist
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20803091402v6c293101uc066b7caa1df7cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20803091402v6c293101uc066b7caa1df7cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D48C67.8050501@gmail.com>

joe ertaba wrote:
>
> where to put persist attribe and how ?
<menulist persist="value">


From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 22:27:34 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:57:34 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] menulist persist
In-Reply-To: <47D48C67.8050501@gmail.com>
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Thanks, it works for list but does not work for textbox ?!

          <textbox value="old" persist="value" />

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Neil Deakin <enndeakin at gmail.com> wrote:

> joe ertaba wrote:
> >
> > where to put persist attribe and how ?
> <menulist persist="value">
>
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From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Mon Mar 10 03:59:47 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:59:47 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] menulist persist
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1205126863.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
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joe ertaba wrote:

> Thanks, it works for list but does not work for textbox ?!
>
>           <textbox value="old" persist="value" />

textboxes don't update the value attribute when they change, so if you 
want to persist it you must set it yourself.

From philip.chee at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 03:48:53 2008
From: philip.chee at gmail.com (Philip Chee)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:48:53 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Project tagging vs. Extension tagging.
Message-ID: <fr5o15$20dg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Hmm.

Did someone grep through my downloads directory tagging all the
extensions there? Because although my extension xSidebar is a SeaMonkey
extension I have two subprojects (xSearchbar and xSidebar for
Thunderbird) which are Thunderbird extensions and now seem to be
(correctly) tagged under Thunderbird.

Also all the Firefox/Thunderbird extensions I've modified to work
SeaMonkey and had cleverly hidden under /downloads/mods/ are now show up
on this page:
<http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications.html/a/seamonkey>
Gosh!

Phil

-- 
Philip Chee <philip at aleytys.pc.my>, <philip.chee at gmail.com>
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
[ ]Immorality will continue until beatings improve.
* TagZilla 0.066.6


From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 04:05:49 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:05:49 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Project tagging vs. Extension tagging.
In-Reply-To: <fr5o15$20dg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <fr5o15$20dg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <47D6678D.6090609@gmail.com>

According to the docs, they are automatically tagged: 
http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs#toc18


        Project Tags

Be sure to tag your project with keywords so it is included in the 
project cloud. XPI files in /download directories are automatically 
scanned and assigned tags based on information in install.rdf files, but 
this information is limited to supported applications and other general 
information.

Philip Chee wrote:
> Hmm.
>
> Did someone grep through my downloads directory tagging all the
> extensions there? Because although my extension xSidebar is a SeaMonkey
> extension I have two subprojects (xSearchbar and xSidebar for
> Thunderbird) which are Thunderbird extensions and now seem to be
> (correctly) tagged under Thunderbird.
>
> Also all the Firefox/Thunderbird extensions I've modified to work
> SeaMonkey and had cleverly hidden under /downloads/mods/ are now show up
> on this page:
> <http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications.html/a/seamonkey>
> Gosh!
>
> Phil
>
>   

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From jesper at selvet.dk  Tue Mar 11 15:44:30 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:44:30 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] selectNode not working as expected
Message-ID: <47D70B4E.9000507@selvet.dk>

Hello.

I am trying the following example (from: 
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/DOM:range.insertNode):
<html>

<head>
<title>xxx</title>
</head>

<body>
<script type="text/javascript">
range = document.createRange();
newNode = document.createElement("p");
newNode.appendChild(document.createTextNode("New Node Inserted Here"));
range.selectNode(document.getElementsByTagName("div").item(0));
range.insertNode(newNode);
</script>

<div>test</div>

</body>

</html>


But i am getting this errorcode:
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Parameter is not an object"  
code: "1003" nsresult: "0x805303eb (NS_ERROR_DOM_NOT_OBJECT_ERR)"  
location: "file:///location/test.html Line: 12"]
Which is this line:
range.selectNode(document.getElementsByTagName("div").item(0));

I dont get it.


Greets.


From will_vmc at hamstersoup.com  Thu Mar 13 07:09:37 2008
From: will_vmc at hamstersoup.com (Will Moffat)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:09:37 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Google Code or Mozdev?
Message-ID: <2f665fe20803130709v2112fd42je2e90b7e66c0f6ca@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I've been trying to decide where I should host my new extension. I
thought my evaluation might be useful to other developers in the same
situation and also as feedback to the maintainers of Mozdev.org

(I should clarify that my users are not very computer literate)

Google Code or Mozdev?
======================

I compared two popular projects, MyCroft on Mozdev and MobileFinder
(not a Firefox extension) on Google Code.
I looked at the following aspects:

* Project homepage
G.Code: http://code.google.com/p/freebase-suggest/
Mozdev: http://mycroft.mozdev.org/

G.Code by default is much cleaner. MyCroft has the prominent mozdev
sidebar which has nothing to do with the MyCroft project. This will
confuse most users coming to the site for the first time.
However, other mozdev projects have better homepages (webmail, ietab)


* Support for FF3 Secure Updates
G.Code: Not ideal. The update.rdf and extension.xpi could be served
directly from the https web svn (by setting the svn mime-type) but
it's possible that Google would disapprove. There is a bug filed about
supporting .xpi downloads directly:
http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=142
Mozdev: Not yet, but working on providing secure updates (via https -
so no signing required?)


* mailing lists: (I need two: user + dev)
G.Groups: http://groups.google.com/group/firebug (different project)
Mozdev:  http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/mycroft/
Google Groups archive is _much_ easier to search than pipermail. I
also like ability to star a post (rather than reply with "me-too")


* bug reporting
G.Code: http://code.google.com/p/mobilefinder/issues/entry
Mozdev: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=mycroft

G.Code issue tracker is much more user-friendly than Bugzilla. There
is no chance my users would use Bugzilla, there's a small chance they
would use Google's Issue Tracker.


* SVN
G.Code: yes
Mozdev: no - (hopefully in a few weeks?)

CVS? Let's just say I've already suffered enough ;-)


Conclusions
===========

For now it seems like Google Code wins on every point except Secure Updates.
But I'd be very interested to hear feedback from other people. What did I miss?

regards,
--Will

P.S. I appreciate the great work that goes into Mozdev.org, I hope you
find this feedback useful.

From cfinke at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 07:11:42 2008
From: cfinke at gmail.com (Christopher Finke)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:11:42 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Google Code or Mozdev?
In-Reply-To: <2f665fe20803130709v2112fd42je2e90b7e66c0f6ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f665fe20803130709v2112fd42je2e90b7e66c0f6ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d7caf3930803130711g2d34516buc061d7a4e121b0e6@mail.gmail.com>

My suggestion: Host the code, buglist, wiki, etc. on Google Code and
use AMO for distribution.  That's what I'm doing for ScribeFire, and
it's working fairly well.

Chris

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Will Moffat <will_vmc at hamstersoup.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  I've been trying to decide where I should host my new extension. I
>  thought my evaluation might be useful to other developers in the same
>  situation and also as feedback to the maintainers of Mozdev.org
>
>  (I should clarify that my users are not very computer literate)
>
>  Google Code or Mozdev?
>  ======================
>
>  I compared two popular projects, MyCroft on Mozdev and MobileFinder
>  (not a Firefox extension) on Google Code.
>  I looked at the following aspects:
>
>  * Project homepage
>  G.Code: http://code.google.com/p/freebase-suggest/
>  Mozdev: http://mycroft.mozdev.org/
>
>  G.Code by default is much cleaner. MyCroft has the prominent mozdev
>  sidebar which has nothing to do with the MyCroft project. This will
>  confuse most users coming to the site for the first time.
>  However, other mozdev projects have better homepages (webmail, ietab)
>
>
>  * Support for FF3 Secure Updates
>  G.Code: Not ideal. The update.rdf and extension.xpi could be served
>  directly from the https web svn (by setting the svn mime-type) but
>  it's possible that Google would disapprove. There is a bug filed about
>  supporting .xpi downloads directly:
>  http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=142
>  Mozdev: Not yet, but working on providing secure updates (via https -
>  so no signing required?)
>
>
>  * mailing lists: (I need two: user + dev)
>  G.Groups: http://groups.google.com/group/firebug (different project)
>  Mozdev:  http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/mycroft/
>  Google Groups archive is _much_ easier to search than pipermail. I
>  also like ability to star a post (rather than reply with "me-too")
>
>
>  * bug reporting
>  G.Code: http://code.google.com/p/mobilefinder/issues/entry
>  Mozdev: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=mycroft
>
>  G.Code issue tracker is much more user-friendly than Bugzilla. There
>  is no chance my users would use Bugzilla, there's a small chance they
>  would use Google's Issue Tracker.
>
>
>  * SVN
>  G.Code: yes
>  Mozdev: no - (hopefully in a few weeks?)
>
>  CVS? Let's just say I've already suffered enough ;-)
>
>
>  Conclusions
>  ===========
>
>  For now it seems like Google Code wins on every point except Secure Updates.
>  But I'd be very interested to hear feedback from other people. What did I miss?
>
>  regards,
>  --Will
>
>  P.S. I appreciate the great work that goes into Mozdev.org, I hope you
>  find this feedback useful.
>  _______________________________________________
>  Project_owners mailing list
>  Project_owners at mozdev.org
>  https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 08:27:00 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:27:00 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] CVS Poll
Message-ID: <767de81b0803130827t5769e6e7y178ad861099ea942@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Being new to CVS, I'd like to know how other people use it.

I have a small project, which I develop alone, and at the moment I primarily
use CVS to get the changes to
www and src on the server. So basically all I do is CVS Commit (and
Add/Ignore).

For the project source it is probably better to start a new branch when
starting or releasing a new version?
That would allow you to more easily switch to an old version and see the
diffs?
But then you should always create a new branch
PROJECT_<version#>_<release#>[_<patch#>] ?
Would that make sense, or are there better (easier, more reliable,...) ways
to manage your versions?

Onno
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From brian at mozdev.org  Thu Mar 13 08:40:07 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:40:07 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Google Code or Mozdev?
In-Reply-To: <2f665fe20803130709v2112fd42je2e90b7e66c0f6ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f665fe20803130709v2112fd42je2e90b7e66c0f6ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D94AD7.7020009@mozdev.org>

Hi Will,

Just some feedback on some of your points. Thanks for the evaluation, it 
is very useful.

> * Project homepage
> G.Code: http://code.google.com/p/freebase-suggest/
> Mozdev: http://mycroft.mozdev.org/
> 
> G.Code by default is much cleaner. MyCroft has the prominent mozdev
> sidebar which has nothing to do with the MyCroft project. This will
> confuse most users coming to the site for the first time.
> However, other mozdev projects have better homepages (webmail, ietab)

It is very easy to turn off Mozdev branding and put whatever layout and 
styles on your project pages. All we ask is for a link back to 
mozdev.org? http://webmail.mozdev.org/ as you cited is a good example. 
Does G.Code allow for such deep customisation?

> * mailing lists: (I need two: user + dev)
> G.Groups: http://groups.google.com/group/firebug (different project)
> Mozdev:  http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/mycroft/
> Google Groups archive is _much_ easier to search than pipermail. I
> also like ability to star a post (rather than reply with "me-too")

Getting indexed on Google Groups is something we have wanted to do for a 
long time. See:
https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=1642

> * bug reporting
> G.Code: http://code.google.com/p/mobilefinder/issues/entry
> Mozdev: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=mycroft
> 
> G.Code issue tracker is much more user-friendly than Bugzilla. There
> is no chance my users would use Bugzilla, there's a small chance they
> would use Google's Issue Tracker.

BZ is a logical choice for us because of the Mozilla link. Many project 
owners provide alternative avenues for feedback and bug reporting, but 
in general BZ works well for many.

> * SVN
> G.Code: yes
> Mozdev: no - (hopefully in a few weeks?)

I am not sure about a few weeks, but it is the #1 priority right now.

> For now it seems like Google Code wins on every point except Secure Updates.
> But I'd be very interested to hear feedback from other people. What did I miss?

I think if you look closer, you will find a lot of other features on 
Mozdev. For example, there is a Drupal installation with a wiki, forums, 
and other features that are available to all project owners.

And the project stats page that is in the works will provide a lot of 
useful information. See:

http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Project-overview-page

> P.S. I appreciate the great work that goes into Mozdev.org, I hope you
> find this feedback useful.

Yes, thanks again.

- Brian

From jesper at selvet.dk  Thu Mar 13 08:44:53 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:44:53 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] CVS Poll
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0803130827t5769e6e7y178ad861099ea942@mail.gmail.com>
References: <767de81b0803130827t5769e6e7y178ad861099ea942@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D94BF5.3060902@selvet.dk>

I just commit my stuff, and keep a detailed changelog locally.
And releases I just commit to the download folder and keep on working on 
the src folder.

Onno Ekker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Being new to CVS, I'd like to know how other people use it.
>
> I have a small project, which I develop alone, and at the moment I 
> primarily use CVS to get the changes to
> www and src on the server. So basically all I do is CVS Commit (and 
> Add/Ignore).
>
> For the project source it is probably better to start a new branch 
> when starting or releasing a new version?
> That would allow you to more easily switch to an old version and see 
> the diffs?
> But then you should always create a new branch 
> PROJECT_<version#>_<release#>[_<patch#>] ?
> Would that make sense, or are there better (easier, more reliable,...) 
> ways to manage your versions?
>
> Onno
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   



From will_vmc at hamstersoup.com  Thu Mar 13 09:35:09 2008
From: will_vmc at hamstersoup.com (Will Moffat)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:35:09 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Google Code or Mozdev?
In-Reply-To: <47D94AD7.7020009@mozdev.org>
References: <2f665fe20803130709v2112fd42je2e90b7e66c0f6ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D94AD7.7020009@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <2f665fe20803130935j57214013g4988f6010947b99d@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Brian, (and Chris)

Thanks for responding so quickly.

>  It is very easy to turn off Mozdev branding and put whatever layout and
>...
>  Does G.Code allow for such deep customisation?

No, Mozdev is much more flexible, but it seems that most projects
don't take advantage of this. Running down the top-50 projects I find
many of the homepages confusing at first glance. (Which links are
project links and which are mozdev links?)


>  BZ is a logical choice for us because of the Mozilla link. Many project
>  owners provide alternative avenues for feedback and bug reporting, but
>  in general BZ works well for many.

I totally agree. I just wanted to raise the point that it's a
developer tool not an end-user tool for collecting reports.

>  > * SVN
>  I am not sure about a few weeks, but it is the #1 priority right now.

Great!

>  I think if you look closer, you will find a lot of other features on
>  Mozdev. For example, there is a Drupal installation with a wiki, forums,
>  and other features that are available to all project owners.

That's cool, although G.Code has a wiki and I find G.Groups works well
as a forum.

>  And the project stats page that is in the works will provide a lot of
>  useful information. See:
>  http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Project-overview-page

Very cool. That will really make the project pages more attractive.

Aside from SVN and Secure Updates, I think the choice comes down to
the desired level of customisation. With G.Code you can get a project
up and running very quickly whereas Mozdev requires more configuration
but is correspondingly more powerful.

regards,
--Will

From davidwboswell at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 13 09:44:33 2008
From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:44:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Google Code or Mozdev?
In-Reply-To: <2f665fe20803130709v2112fd42je2e90b7e66c0f6ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <127991.2620.qm@web33001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Will,

This is great information, so thanks for posting this.  I believe one
of the biggest benefits of mozdev over other hosting sites is that we
want the community to be involved in determining how the site should
evolve, so we welcome feedback and participation.

Some comments about your specific points are inline below.

> G.Code by default is much cleaner. MyCroft has the prominent mozdev
> sidebar which has nothing to do with the MyCroft project. This will
> confuse most users coming to the site for the first time.

I agree that the default project design isn't perfect.  We are planning
a redesign and will address this issue then.  I think it would make
sense to get rid of the mozdev-specific left nav on project pages and
have just a thin mozdev header at the top so there isn't any confusion
between project links and site-wide links.

> Google Groups archive is _much_ easier to search than pipermail. I
> also like ability to star a post (rather than reply with "me-too")

As Brian mentions there is a bug open for this.  If this is something
that project owners think is a high priority, we can move this up on
our roadmap.  We also welcome patches from project owners for bugs.

> For now it seems like Google Code wins on every point except Secure
> Updates.

I think that mozdev provides other benefits beyond just site
functionality.  For instance, the mozdev community is exclusively
focused on Mozilla development and mailing lists like this one are a
great resource for Mozilla developers.

David

From ezechico at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 11:36:40 2008
From: ezechico at gmail.com (Ezequiel Calderara)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:36:40 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] CVS Poll
In-Reply-To: <47D94BF5.3060902@selvet.dk>
References: <767de81b0803130827t5769e6e7y178ad861099ea942@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D94BF5.3060902@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <94d359b10803131136u3c67d72r1f6a4190e7c1acb4@mail.gmail.com>

Is needed to create a branch for each release?
Why not just tag them?

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk>
wrote:

> I just commit my stuff, and keep a detailed changelog locally.
> And releases I just commit to the download folder and keep on working on
> the src folder.
>
> Onno Ekker wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Being new to CVS, I'd like to know how other people use it.
> >
> > I have a small project, which I develop alone, and at the moment I
> > primarily use CVS to get the changes to
> > www and src on the server. So basically all I do is CVS Commit (and
> > Add/Ignore).
> >
> > For the project source it is probably better to start a new branch
> > when starting or releasing a new version?
> > That would allow you to more easily switch to an old version and see
> > the diffs?
> > But then you should always create a new branch
> > PROJECT_<version#>_<release#>[_<patch#>] ?
> > Would that make sense, or are there better (easier, more reliable,...)
> > ways to manage your versions?
> >
> > Onno
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Project_owners mailing list
> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
______
Ezequiel.

Http://www.ironicnet.com
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From jawahar at ebi.ac.uk  Fri Mar 14 04:25:50 2008
From: jawahar at ebi.ac.uk (Jawahar Swaminathan)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:25:50 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
Message-ID: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk>

Hi,
Apologies if I have missed this in previous posts, but I'm having 
problems updating my extension to work with firefox3.

The code is

function doCMD(el) {
        var v = el.getAttribute("value");
        if (v == "") {
                alert('No database chosen');
        } else
                alert('Value of v is ' + v);
                document.getElementById('server1').value=v;
                biobar_SearchMenu();
}

In firefox2 and before, the value of 
document.getElementById('server1').value is overwritten with that handed 
over by variable v. But it would appear this no longer works in ff3.0. 
I've looked at the developer documentation in MDC but am none the wiser. 
Would appreciate and be thankful for any suggestions.

regards - Jawahar



From jesper at selvet.dk  Fri Mar 14 04:36:28 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:36:28 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
In-Reply-To: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk>
References: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>

You should tend to use this instead:
document.getElementById('server1').setAttribute("value", v);
Hope it works.

Jawahar Swaminathan wrote:
> Hi,
> Apologies if I have missed this in previous posts, but I'm having 
> problems updating my extension to work with firefox3.
>
> The code is
>
> function doCMD(el) {
>         var v = el.getAttribute("value");
>         if (v == "") {
>                 alert('No database chosen');
>         } else
>                 alert('Value of v is ' + v);
>                 document.getElementById('server1').value=v;
>                 biobar_SearchMenu();
> }
>
> In firefox2 and before, the value of 
> document.getElementById('server1').value is overwritten with that handed 
> over by variable v. But it would appear this no longer works in ff3.0. 
> I've looked at the developer documentation in MDC but am none the wiser. 
> Would appreciate and be thankful for any suggestions.
>
> regards - Jawahar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>
>   



From godmar at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 06:25:21 2008
From: godmar at gmail.com (Godmar Back)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:25:21 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
In-Reply-To: <47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>
References: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk> <47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <719dced30803140625m3ab33af9s5ea31690081546c@mail.gmail.com>

Question: when should you use .setAttribute("x") vs. .x and does
anybody know where this is documented/discussed?
Does it differ between XUL and HTML?

 - Godmar

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at selvet.dk> wrote:
> You should tend to use this instead:
>  document.getElementById('server1').setAttribute("value", v);
>  Hope it works.
>
>
>
>  Jawahar Swaminathan wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  > Apologies if I have missed this in previous posts, but I'm having
>  > problems updating my extension to work with firefox3.
>  >
>  > The code is
>  >
>  > function doCMD(el) {
>  >         var v = el.getAttribute("value");
>  >         if (v == "") {
>  >                 alert('No database chosen');
>  >         } else
>  >                 alert('Value of v is ' + v);
>  >                 document.getElementById('server1').value=v;
>  >                 biobar_SearchMenu();
>  > }
>  >
>  > In firefox2 and before, the value of
>  > document.getElementById('server1').value is overwritten with that handed
>  > over by variable v. But it would appear this no longer works in ff3.0.
>  > I've looked at the developer documentation in MDC but am none the wiser.
>  > Would appreciate and be thankful for any suggestions.
>  >
>  > regards - Jawahar
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Project_owners mailing list
>  > Project_owners at mozdev.org
>  > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Project_owners mailing list
>  Project_owners at mozdev.org
>  https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>

From enndeakin at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 07:32:41 2008
From: enndeakin at gmail.com (Neil Deakin)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:32:41 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
In-Reply-To: <719dced30803140625m3ab33af9s5ea31690081546c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk> <47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>
	<719dced30803140625m3ab33af9s5ea31690081546c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DA8C89.6030408@gmail.com>

Godmar Back wrote:
> Question: when should you use .setAttribute("x") vs. .x and does
> anybody know where this is documented/discussed?
> Does it differ between XUL and HTML?
>   
You should use the property form .x when available.

I don't know about the original question posted here, as it didn't 
specify what type of element it was.

From jawahar at ebi.ac.uk  Fri Mar 14 07:53:48 2008
From: jawahar at ebi.ac.uk (Jawahar Swaminathan)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:53:48 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
In-Reply-To: <47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>
References: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk> <47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <47DA917C.9020505@ebi.ac.uk>

Thanks !! Works perfectly now..

Jawahar

Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> You should tend to use this instead:
> document.getElementById('server1').setAttribute("value", v);
> Hope it works.
>
> Jawahar Swaminathan wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>> Apologies if I have missed this in previous posts, but I'm having 
>> problems updating my extension to work with firefox3.
>>
>> The code is
>>
>> function doCMD(el) {
>>         var v = el.getAttribute("value");
>>         if (v == "") {
>>                 alert('No database chosen');
>>         } else
>>                 alert('Value of v is ' + v);
>>                 document.getElementById('server1').value=v;
>>                 biobar_SearchMenu();
>> }
>>
>> In firefox2 and before, the value of 
>> document.getElementById('server1').value is overwritten with that handed 
>> over by variable v. But it would appear this no longer works in ff3.0. 
>> I've looked at the developer documentation in MDC but am none the wiser. 
>> Would appreciate and be thankful for any suggestions.
>>
>> regards - Jawahar
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   


From myk at mozilla.org  Fri Mar 14 09:00:05 2008
From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:00:05 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
In-Reply-To: <719dced30803140625m3ab33af9s5ea31690081546c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk> <47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>
	<719dced30803140625m3ab33af9s5ea31690081546c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DAA105.7090504@mozilla.org>

Godmar Back wrote:
> Question: when should you use .setAttribute("x") vs. .x and does
> anybody know where this is documented/discussed?
>   
The XUL Reference documents the attributes and properties of XUL 
elements.  For example, it says that the value property of the checkbox 
element <http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XUL:checkbox#p-value> 
"gets and sets the value of the value attribute."

> Does it differ between XUL and HTML?
>   
HTML also has both attributes and properties, and, if I remember 
correctly, like XUL it is not entirely consistent about when to use 
which ones.

-myk

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From myk at mozilla.org  Fri Mar 14 09:15:11 2008
From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:15:11 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
In-Reply-To: <47DAA105.7090504@mozilla.org>
References: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk>
	<47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>	<719dced30803140625m3ab33af9s5ea31690081546c@mail.gmail.com>
	<47DAA105.7090504@mozilla.org>
Message-ID: <47DAA48F.2010302@mozilla.org>

Myk Melez wrote:
> HTML also has both attributes and properties, and, if I remember 
> correctly, like XUL it is not entirely consistent about when to use 
> which ones.
Erm, to be completely accurate, I should say that HTML 
<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/> has only attributes, while the DOM 1 
specification <http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/WD-DOM-Level-1-20000929/> 
specifies properties for DOM nodes.

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From jawahar at ebi.ac.uk  Fri Mar 14 10:11:39 2008
From: jawahar at ebi.ac.uk (Jawahar Swaminathan)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:11:39 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Menu Behavior in FF3.0
Message-ID: <47DAB1CB.5050209@ebi.ac.uk>

Thanks for the previous help with the getElementById issue.. I have 
another quirk now.

I dynamically create a menu from an XML file as follows:

        var d = document;
        var popup       =  d.getElementById('server1.popup');
        var database    =  d.getElementById('server1');
        var value       = d.getElementById('server1').value;
        var p = d.createElement('menupopup');
        p.setAttribute('id', "server1.popup");
        p.setAttribute('crop', "right");
       var biobar_Menus = biobar_xmlFile.getElementsByTagName("Group");
        for (var i=0; i<biobar_Menus.length; i++) {
                var biobar_Menu = biobar_Menus[i].getAttribute("type");
                var tmp_menu = d.createElement('menu');
                tmp_menu.setAttribute('label', biobar_Menu);
                tmp_menu.setAttribute('id', biobar_Menu);
                tmp_menu.setAttribute('value', biobar_Menu);
                tmp_menu.setAttribute('class', 'menuitem-non-iconic');
                tmp_menu.setAttribute('oncommand', 'doCMD(event.target)');
                var tmp_tmp = d.createElement('menupopup');
                tmp_menu.appendChild(tmp_tmp);
                var biobar_Menuitems = 
biobar_Menus[i].getElementsByTagName("Database");
                for (var m=0; m<biobar_Menuitems.length; m++) {
                        var biobar_Name = 
biobar_Menuitems[m].getAttribute("type");
                        var biobar_names = d.createElement('menuitem');
                        biobar_names.setAttribute('label', biobar_Name);
                        biobar_names.setAttribute('value', biobar_Name);
                        tmp_tmp.appendChild(biobar_names);
                }
                p.appendChild(tmp_menu);

        }
        database.appendChild(p);



In F2.0 once the menu was made on the toolbar, selecting a menuitem 
would persist on the toolbar.. However, with the same piece of code, the 
menubox remains blank. The XUL for this is
                        <menulist id="server1" value="msdserver" 
hidden="false" persist="selected" style="width:160px;">
                                <menupopup id="server1.popup" />
                        </menulist>


Anyone know if there is an issue with this in FF3.0 ?

Thanks again -

Jawahar



From jesper at selvet.dk  Fri Mar 14 12:35:31 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:35:31 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Menu Behavior in FF3.0
In-Reply-To: <47DAB1CB.5050209@ebi.ac.uk>
References: <47DAB1CB.5050209@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <47DAD383.8030604@selvet.dk>

Jawahar Swaminathan wrote:
> Thanks for the previous help with the getElementById issue.. I have 
> another quirk now.
>
> I dynamically create a menu from an XML file as follows:
>
>         var d = document;
>         var popup       =  d.getElementById('server1.popup');
>         var database    =  d.getElementById('server1');
>         var value       = d.getElementById('server1').value;
>         var p = d.createElement('menupopup');
>         p.setAttribute('id', "server1.popup");
>         p.setAttribute('crop', "right");
>        var biobar_Menus = biobar_xmlFile.getElementsByTagName("Group");
>         for (var i=0; i<biobar_Menus.length; i++) {
>                 var biobar_Menu = biobar_Menus[i].getAttribute("type");
>                 var tmp_menu = d.createElement('menu');
>                 tmp_menu.setAttribute('label', biobar_Menu);
>                 tmp_menu.setAttribute('id', biobar_Menu);
>                 tmp_menu.setAttribute('value', biobar_Menu);
>                 tmp_menu.setAttribute('class', 'menuitem-non-iconic');
>                 tmp_menu.setAttribute('oncommand', 'doCMD(event.target)');
>                 var tmp_tmp = d.createElement('menupopup');
>                 tmp_menu.appendChild(tmp_tmp);
>                 var biobar_Menuitems = 
> biobar_Menus[i].getElementsByTagName("Database");
>                 for (var m=0; m<biobar_Menuitems.length; m++) {
>                         var biobar_Name = 
> biobar_Menuitems[m].getAttribute("type");
>                         var biobar_names = d.createElement('menuitem');
>                         biobar_names.setAttribute('label', biobar_Name);
>                         biobar_names.setAttribute('value', biobar_Name);
>                         tmp_tmp.appendChild(biobar_names);
>                 }
>                 p.appendChild(tmp_menu);
>
>         }
>         database.appendChild(p);
>
>
>
> In F2.0 once the menu was made on the toolbar, selecting a menuitem 
> would persist on the toolbar.. However, with the same piece of code, the 
> menubox remains blank. The XUL for this is
>                         <menulist id="server1" value="msdserver" 
> hidden="false" persist="selected" style="width:160px;">
>                                 <menupopup id="server1.popup" />
>                         </menulist>
>
>
> Anyone know if there is an issue with this in FF3.0 ?
>
> Thanks again -
>
> Jawahar
>
>   


Think we need some more code on this one.


From enndeakin at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 12:50:12 2008
From: enndeakin at gmail.com (Neil Deakin)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:50:12 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Menu Behavior in FF3.0
In-Reply-To: <47DAB1CB.5050209@ebi.ac.uk>
References: <47DAB1CB.5050209@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <47DAD6F4.9020601@gmail.com>

Jawahar Swaminathan wrote:
> Thanks for the previous help with the getElementById issue.. I have 
> another quirk now.
>
> I dynamically create a menu from an XML file as follows:
>
>
>
> In F2.0 once the menu was made on the toolbar, selecting a menuitem 
> would persist on the toolbar.. However, with the same piece of code, the 
> menubox remains blank. The XUL for this is
>                         <menulist id="server1" value="msdserver" 
> hidden="false" persist="selected" style="width:160px;">
>   
There is no selected attribute for menulists, you want to use the value 
attribute. In this case though, nothing will happen since you're 
menulist doesn't have any items in it.



From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Fri Mar 14 13:00:02 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:00:02 -0200
Subject: [Project_owners] response status with loadURI() ?
Message-ID: <47DAD942.2080907@buanzo.com.ar>

Hi guys! Is there any way of getting a response status (200, 302, 404, etc)
 of a page load triggered by XUL:browser's loadURI()?

Actually, I want to include some "remote server is not working" code to 
donkeyfire....


From jesper at selvet.dk  Fri Mar 14 13:04:15 2008
From: jesper at selvet.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:04:15 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] response status with loadURI() ?
In-Reply-To: <47DAD942.2080907@buanzo.com.ar>
References: <47DAD942.2080907@buanzo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <47DADA3F.9010506@selvet.dk>

Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> Hi guys! Is there any way of getting a response status (200, 302, 404, etc)
>  of a page load triggered by XUL:browser's loadURI()?
>
> Actually, I want to include some "remote server is not working" code to 
> donkeyfire....
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>
>   

Take a look at one of the http header projects like LiveHTTPheaders.
They should tell you how.


From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Fri Mar 14 13:07:15 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:07:15 -0200
Subject: [Project_owners] response status with loadURI() ?
In-Reply-To: <47DADA3F.9010506@selvet.dk>
References: <47DAD942.2080907@buanzo.com.ar> <47DADA3F.9010506@selvet.dk>
Message-ID: <47DADAF3.7020007@buanzo.com.ar>

Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> Take a look at one of the http header projects like LiveHTTPheaders. 
> They should tell you how.
I know all about observers and event listeners and progress listeners. I 
was just checking if there was something closely related to loadURI() 
that would help me.

Problem is, I can't register an observer for the XUL browser element. I 
can register them globally :( - I don't want that, it's an overkill.

But I can add a progress listener....

well, I wanted soemthing simple, guess I don't have it. Maybe I can 
redesign donkeyfire to use XMLHttpRequest... :(


From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 14 14:23:33 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:23:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Trac/JIRA/Bugzilla [was: Google Code or Mozdev?]
Message-ID: <503458.50692.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> From: Will Moffat <will_vmc at hamstersoup.com>

> * bug reporting
> G.Code issue tracker is much more user-friendly than Bugzilla.


Is anyone besides me interested in seeing Trac and/or JIRA (free for non-profits like mozdev: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing.jsp#nonprofit)?

Eric





      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Fri Mar 14 14:26:48 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:26:48 -0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Trac/JIRA/Bugzilla [was: Google Code or
	Mozdev?]
In-Reply-To: <503458.50692.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <503458.50692.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47DAED98.40202@buanzo.com.ar>

+1 to Eric's Idea of having Trac available.

I don't like the idea of using JIRA, even free.


From pete at mozdevgroup.com  Fri Mar 14 15:31:15 2008
From: pete at mozdevgroup.com (Pete Collins)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:31:15 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] Trac/JIRA/Bugzilla [was: Google Code
	or	Mozdev?]
In-Reply-To: <47DAED98.40202@buanzo.com.ar>
References: <503458.50692.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<47DAED98.40202@buanzo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <47DAFCB3.6020905@mozdevgroup.com>


>.
>
>I don't like the idea of using JIRA, even free.
>  
>

I used Jira before and thought it was terrible IMO ...

--pete

-- 
Pete Collins - Founder, Mozdev Group Inc.
www.mozdevgroup.com
Mozilla Software Development Solutions
tel: 1-719-302-5811
fax: 1-719-302-5813


From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Fri Mar 14 14:42:25 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:42:25 -0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Trac/JIRA/Bugzilla [was: Google Code
	or	Mozdev?]
In-Reply-To: <47DAFCB3.6020905@mozdevgroup.com>
References: <503458.50692.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<47DAED98.40202@buanzo.com.ar>
	<47DAFCB3.6020905@mozdevgroup.com>
Message-ID: <47DAF141.6060408@buanzo.com.ar>

Pete Collins wrote:
> I used Jira before and thought it was terrible IMO ...
Main issue: are we allowed to modify it and make it suit for our needs?

I think Trac would be much more integration-friendly.


From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 14:44:01 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:44:01 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Trac/JIRA/Bugzilla [was: Google Code or
	Mozdev?]
In-Reply-To: <503458.50692.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <503458.50692.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47DAF1A1.90606@gmail.com>

-1 for Jira here too.
Bugzilla is much easier!

And stay away from Confluence too, if you can...

Onno
-- 

Eric H. Jung wrote:
>> From: Will Moffat <will_vmc at hamstersoup.com>
>> * bug reporting
>> G.Code issue tracker is much more user-friendly than Bugzilla.
>>     
>
>
> Is anyone besides me interested in seeing Trac and/or JIRA (free for non-profits like mozdev: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing.jsp#nonprofit)?
>
> Eric
>   


From godmar at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 16:15:14 2008
From: godmar at gmail.com (Godmar Back)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:15:14 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
In-Reply-To: <47DAA105.7090504@mozilla.org>
References: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk> <47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>
	<719dced30803140625m3ab33af9s5ea31690081546c@mail.gmail.com>
	<47DAA105.7090504@mozilla.org>
Message-ID: <719dced30803141615j7f35cb55j3e457ead9b292b37@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Myk Melez <myk at mozilla.org> wrote:
>
>  Godmar Back wrote:
>  Question: when should you use .setAttribute("x") vs. .x and does
> anybody know where this is documented/discussed?
>
>  The XUL Reference documents the attributes and properties of XUL elements.
> For example, it says that the value property of the checkbox element "gets
> and sets the value of the value attribute."
>

Interesting. According to the page to which you linked [1], "value"
isn't listed as an attribute for checkbox (nor is it inherited), so
what are sets/gets of the value property really mapped to?

 - Godmar

[1] http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XUL:checkbox#p-value

From enndeakin at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 16:34:07 2008
From: enndeakin at gmail.com (Neil Deakin)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:34:07 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] getElementById behavior in firefox 3
In-Reply-To: <719dced30803141615j7f35cb55j3e457ead9b292b37@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47DA60BE.6020607@ebi.ac.uk>
	<47DA633C.5030005@selvet.dk>	<719dced30803140625m3ab33af9s5ea31690081546c@mail.gmail.com>	<47DAA105.7090504@mozilla.org>
	<719dced30803141615j7f35cb55j3e457ead9b292b37@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DB0B6F.2070502@gmail.com>

Godmar Back wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Myk Melez <myk at mozilla.org> wrote:
>   
>>  Godmar Back wrote:
>>  Question: when should you use .setAttribute("x") vs. .x and does
>> anybody know where this is documented/discussed?
>>
>>  The XUL Reference documents the attributes and properties of XUL elements.
>> For example, it says that the value property of the checkbox element "gets
>> and sets the value of the value attribute."
>>
>>     
>
> Interesting. According to the page to which you linked [1], "value"
> isn't listed as an attribute for checkbox (nor is it inherited), so
> what are sets/gets of the value property really mapped to?
>
>   
Looks like an error is the documentation. There is no value for 
checkboxes. You adjust the value with the checked property.


From ezechico at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 16:41:59 2008
From: ezechico at gmail.com (Ezequiel Calderara)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:41:59 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] response status with loadURI() ?
In-Reply-To: <47DADAF3.7020007@buanzo.com.ar>
References: <47DAD942.2080907@buanzo.com.ar> <47DADA3F.9010506@selvet.dk>
	<47DADAF3.7020007@buanzo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <94d359b10803141641p7692053fu4a489f75128029a@mail.gmail.com>

Using this "hack" u can do it...

http://jeremiahgrossman.blogspot.com/2008/03/login-detection-whose-problem-is-it.html

<img src="https://mail.google.com/mail/pimages/2/icons_ns1.png"
> onload="alert('GMail: Logged-In')" onerror="alert('Gmail: Not Logged-in')">


Try loading a image from the remote server :P

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <
buanzo at buanzo.com.ar> wrote:

> Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> > Take a look at one of the http header projects like LiveHTTPheaders.
> > They should tell you how.
> I know all about observers and event listeners and progress listeners. I
> was just checking if there was something closely related to loadURI()
> that would help me.
>
> Problem is, I can't register an observer for the XUL browser element. I
> can register them globally :( - I don't want that, it's an overkill.
>
> But I can add a progress listener....
>
> well, I wanted soemthing simple, guess I don't have it. Maybe I can
> redesign donkeyfire to use XMLHttpRequest... :(
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
______
Ezequiel.

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From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Fri Mar 14 17:06:50 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:06:50 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Menu Behavior in FF3.0
In-Reply-To: <mailman.132.1205514717.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.132.1205514717.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <frf3v4$19af$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Jawahar Swaminathan wrote:

> I dynamically create a menu from an XML file as follows:
>
>        var d = document;
>        var popup       =  d.getElementById('server1.popup');
>        var database    =  d.getElementById('server1');
>        var value       = d.getElementById('server1').value;
>        var p = d.createElement('menupopup');

...snip...

>        database.appendChild(p);

...snip...

>                        <menulist id="server1" value="msdserver" 
> hidden="false" persist="selected" style="width:160px;">
>                                <menupopup id="server1.popup" />
>                        </menulist>

Are you somehow ending up with multiple menupopups? The behaviour for 
that was undefined under Firefox 2, and maybe you got lucky.

From gevazeichner at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 21:51:46 2008
From: gevazeichner at gmail.com (Geva Zeichner)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:51:46 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Slow image loading
Message-ID: <de1276f20803142151g354540e8pae2578c1ee362507@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I've issued a new dev
version<http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=3295587#3295587>for
my extension, that supports FF3. But while using it with FF3 (b3 &
b4),
I've noticed some real slowness of first-time image loading (accompanied by
close to 100% CPU usage) and some weird slowness in "dis-painting" of the
'text' div preview area - when hiding this area by using CSS display
property. This slow behavior is not occurring at all in FF2.

I'd appreciate it if you could possibly look in the code and test it a
little on FF2 and FF3.

Thank you.

-- 
Get Gmail with Right-To-Left: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2879/
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From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Sat Mar 15 00:26:41 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:26:41 -0200
Subject: [Project_owners] response status with loadURI() ?
In-Reply-To: <94d359b10803141641p7692053fu4a489f75128029a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47DAD942.2080907@buanzo.com.ar>
	<47DADA3F.9010506@selvet.dk>	<47DADAF3.7020007@buanzo.com.ar>
	<94d359b10803141641p7692053fu4a489f75128029a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DB7A31.7000406@buanzo.com.ar>

Ezequiel Calderara wrote:
> Using this "hack" u can do it...
>
> <http://jeremiahgrossman.blogspot.com/2008/03/login-detection-whose-problem-is-it.html>
hey that's pretty neat :P - Thanks Ezequiel.

PS: My son's middle name is Ezequiel. Big pulp-fiction fan here :P


From philip.chee at gmail.com  Sat Mar 15 03:31:05 2008
From: philip.chee at gmail.com (Philip Chee)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:31:05 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Two recent defections to code.google.com
	(Calculator & SQLite Manager)
Message-ID: <frg8f6$29e3$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>


Recently I noticed that two projects have defected to code.google.com:

http://calculator.mozdev.org/
http://sqlitemanager.mozdev.org/

What advantage does google hold over mozdev? What can mozdev do to make
it more attractive to extension developers?

Marc & Mirinal: What made you jump ship? What problems were you facing
with mozdev?

Phil

-- 
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http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
[ ]Points At BBS Brainstorm Have The World At Their Fingertips.
* TagZilla 0.066.6


From mrinal.kant at gmail.com  Sat Mar 15 06:49:09 2008
From: mrinal.kant at gmail.com (Mrinal Kant)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:19:09 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] Two recent defections to code.google.com
	(Calculator & SQLite Manager)
In-Reply-To: <frg8f6$29e3$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <frg8f6$29e3$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <7a9c88660803150649k14e20637t3c717cc49b854749@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
Reasons for jumping ship (in order of decreasing importance to me):
1. no cvs needed (for me that meant wincvs too) on code.google.com
(hereafter referred to as cgc) because I was mainly interested in
uploading downloads and www stuff only.
2. no cvs means I can update the pages from any machine. This is
important because I move between 3 machines on average days. But,
given the number of changes I make, this may be only a psychological
factor.
3. fewer accounts/passwords to manage/remember because, in any case, I
use google stuff (mail, reader, docs, groups) all the time. As of now,
my extension requires me to use 4 accounts: amo, mozdev, mozillazine &
gmail. I hope to bring that to 2: amo, google (code, groups & mail).
4. Not sure about this: I can add milestone release for issues on cgc
which I could not for bugs on mozdev on my own. See 1 below.
5. Default look and feel is better than at mozdev. This point does not
count as a valid reason for me because I had customized my extension's
homepage already. But, a very relevant point for a newcomer. However,
see 2 below.
6. You can label a download/wiki as featured and it appears on the
project's main page on cgc. Not a big point though.
7. Ability to mark downloads as deprecated on cgc.

Downsides of the jump (in order of increasing importance):
1. I find bugzilla far superior to Issues; but point 4 above is
important too. Also, users of my extension hardly used bugzilla; so,
never mind.
2. Infinitely (figuratively, I mean) better than cgc in the
flexibility I got on mozdev to determine the look, feel and
organization of the files within the sqlitemanager.mozdev.org
3. Had I begun at google rather than at mozdev, I guess my extension
wouldn't manage the exposure/attention it got, however little. That is
why, I am not surrendering my privileges at mozdev yet. And
freshcomers should weigh this point too.

If I have missed anything, I will add it later.

Mrinal.

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Philip Chee <philip.chee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Recently I noticed that two projects have defected to code.google.com:
>
>  http://calculator.mozdev.org/
>  http://sqlitemanager.mozdev.org/
>
>  What advantage does google hold over mozdev? What can mozdev do to make
>  it more attractive to extension developers?
>
>  Marc & Mirinal: What made you jump ship? What problems were you facing
>  with mozdev?
>
>  Phil
>
>  --
>  Philip Chee <philip at aleytys.pc.my>, <philip.chee at gmail.com>
>  http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
>  Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
>  oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
>  [ ]Points At BBS Brainstorm Have The World At Their Fingertips.
>  * TagZilla 0.066.6
>
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>  Project_owners at mozdev.org
>  https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sat Mar 15 08:46:37 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:16:37 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] bookmarks context menu
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20803150846s53efdd64oc7585d13a75fa4f4@mail.gmail.com>

hi

I want to add some items to bookmarks context menu


*<popupset> *
*    <menupopup id="bookmarks-context-menu" >*
*        <menuitem label="new item"/>*
*    </menupopup>*
*</popupset>*


it doesn't works,any idea ?
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From david at mozdev.org  Sat Mar 15 09:05:39 2008
From: david at mozdev.org (David Boswell)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:05:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Two recent defections to code.google.com
	(Calculator & SQLite Manager)
In-Reply-To: <7a9c88660803150649k14e20637t3c717cc49b854749@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <745797.65417.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

More good feedback, so thanks for writing this up.  If anyone else is
considering moving to another project hosting site, feel free to let us
know about your concerns before you move and we'll see how we can
address them.  It's also possible a fix is already on our roadmap.

http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html

Some comments below:

> 1. no cvs needed (for me that meant wincvs too) on code.google.com
> (hereafter referred to as cgc) because I was mainly interested in
> uploading downloads and www stuff only.

CVS is definitely a pain.  Now people can use Drupal to update at least
some content without CVS.  We also are looking at other fixes for this
-- installing Doctor, for example.

> 3. fewer accounts/passwords to manage/remember because, in any case,
> I use google stuff (mail, reader, docs, groups) all the time.

Yes, that does sound like a pain.  We are interested in working with
AMO to make developer's lives easier, so maybe syncing account
information across AMO and mozdev is an option?

> 4. Not sure about this: I can add milestone release for issues on cgc
> which I could not for bugs on mozdev on my own.

You can certainly do this on mozdev.  For anyone interested, we can
give you admin access to your bugzilla accounts.  More at:

http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs#toc15

> 6. You can label a download/wiki as featured and it appears on the
> project's main page on cgc. Not a big point though.
> 7. Ability to mark downloads as deprecated on cgc.

Doug is working on a project downloads dashboard right now and it's
possible these features could be added.  More at:

http://www.silfreed.net/blog/2008/03/Mozdev-project-overview-update

David



From ezechico at gmail.com  Sun Mar 16 13:28:15 2008
From: ezechico at gmail.com (Ezequiel Calderara)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:28:15 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] response status with loadURI() ?
In-Reply-To: <47DB7A31.7000406@buanzo.com.ar>
References: <47DAD942.2080907@buanzo.com.ar> <47DADA3F.9010506@selvet.dk>
	<47DADAF3.7020007@buanzo.com.ar>
	<94d359b10803141641p7692053fu4a489f75128029a@mail.gmail.com>
	<47DB7A31.7000406@buanzo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <94d359b10803161328u781ae341p13a7f2e7fec00786@mail.gmail.com>

Me too...

Ezekiel 25,17:
"The path of the rightgous is beset for all sides..." xD

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <
buanzo at buanzo.com.ar> wrote:

> Ezequiel Calderara wrote:
> > Using this "hack" u can do it...
> >
> > <
> http://jeremiahgrossman.blogspot.com/2008/03/login-detection-whose-problem-is-it.html
> >
> hey that's pretty neat :P - Thanks Ezequiel.
>
> PS: My son's middle name is Ezequiel. Big pulp-fiction fan here :P
>
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From johnm555 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 06:41:29 2008
From: johnm555 at gmail.com (John Marshall)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:41:29 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] Two recent defections to code.google.com
	(Calculator & SQLite Manager)
In-Reply-To: <745797.65417.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <7a9c88660803150649k14e20637t3c717cc49b854749@mail.gmail.com>
	<745797.65417.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e7ecbc40803170641x291b9973r3ca33f99ebc80188@mail.gmail.com>

One thing I really like is the ability to search the project's source code,
the code syntax highlighting, and the nice diff view. If mozdev had
something like this that would be great. Maybe something like mxr?

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 9:05 AM, David Boswell <david at mozdev.org> wrote:

> More good feedback, so thanks for writing this up.  If anyone else is
> considering moving to another project hosting site, feel free to let us
> know about your concerns before you move and we'll see how we can
> address them.  It's also possible a fix is already on our roadmap.
>
> http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html
>
> Some comments below:
>
> > 1. no cvs needed (for me that meant wincvs too) on code.google.com
> > (hereafter referred to as cgc) because I was mainly interested in
> > uploading downloads and www stuff only.
>
> CVS is definitely a pain.  Now people can use Drupal to update at least
> some content without CVS.  We also are looking at other fixes for this
> -- installing Doctor, for example.
>
> > 3. fewer accounts/passwords to manage/remember because, in any case,
> > I use google stuff (mail, reader, docs, groups) all the time.
>
> Yes, that does sound like a pain.  We are interested in working with
> AMO to make developer's lives easier, so maybe syncing account
> information across AMO and mozdev is an option?
>
> > 4. Not sure about this: I can add milestone release for issues on cgc
> > which I could not for bugs on mozdev on my own.
>
> You can certainly do this on mozdev.  For anyone interested, we can
> give you admin access to your bugzilla accounts.  More at:
>
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs#toc15
>
> > 6. You can label a download/wiki as featured and it appears on the
> > project's main page on cgc. Not a big point though.
> > 7. Ability to mark downloads as deprecated on cgc.
>
> Doug is working on a project downloads dashboard right now and it's
> possible these features could be added.  More at:
>
> http://www.silfreed.net/blog/2008/03/Mozdev-project-overview-update
>
> David
>
>
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From jawahar at ebi.ac.uk  Mon Mar 17 07:01:21 2008
From: jawahar at ebi.ac.uk (Jawahar Swaminathan)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:01:21 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Menu Behavior in FF3.0 - Solved
In-Reply-To: <frf3v4$19af$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.132.1205514717.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<frf3v4$19af$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <47DE79B1.5000206@ebi.ac.uk>

I have solved this problem. Ultimately, it was rather silly of me not to 
have noticed this before..

In FF2.0, when a menuitem inside a menu was chosen, the menu label would 
update itself automatically to the chosen item as the value in the 
menulist was being updated with the chosen menuitem.

However, in FF3.0, I have had to explicitly update the attribute of the 
menulist with a setAttribute('label',something).

So essentially it is now solved.

Thanks - Jawahar

Neil wrote:
> Jawahar Swaminathan wrote:
>
>   
>> I dynamically create a menu from an XML file as follows:
>>
>>        var d = document;
>>        var popup       =  d.getElementById('server1.popup');
>>        var database    =  d.getElementById('server1');
>>        var value       = d.getElementById('server1').value;
>>        var p = d.createElement('menupopup');
>>     
>
> ...snip...
>
>   
>>        database.appendChild(p);
>>     
>
> ...snip...
>
>   
>>                        <menulist id="server1" value="msdserver" 
>> hidden="false" persist="selected" style="width:160px;">
>>                                <menupopup id="server1.popup" />
>>                        </menulist>
>>     
>
> Are you somehow ending up with multiple menupopups? The behaviour for 
> that was undefined under Firefox 2, and maybe you got lucky.
> _______________________________________________
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> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   


From silfreed at silfreed.net  Mon Mar 17 08:35:43 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:35:43 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Two recent defections to code.google.com
	(Calculator & SQLite Manager)
In-Reply-To: <4e7ecbc40803170641x291b9973r3ca33f99ebc80188@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7a9c88660803150649k14e20637t3c717cc49b854749@mail.gmail.com>
	<745797.65417.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4e7ecbc40803170641x291b9973r3ca33f99ebc80188@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200803171135.51732.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Monday 17 March 2008 09:41:29 John Marshall wrote:
> One thing I really like is the ability to search the project's source code,
> the code syntax highlighting, and the nice diff view. If mozdev had
> something like this that would be great. Maybe something like mxr?

mxr is also on the roadmap (called lxr), but we don't know how this will 
interact with subversion when that's released.

-Doug

-- 
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From brian at mozdev.org  Mon Mar 17 10:17:25 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:17:25 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Improving the layout and "discoverability" of
	content on the Wiki
Message-ID: <47DEA7A5.4040400@mozdev.org>

https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=18812

Currently, the wiki has 2 lead-in pages:

1) http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs
This is linked from www.mozdev.org (Documentation) and would be most 
user's first exposure. This is a long page with sections and a lot of 
information to take in all at once.

2) http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/Main-Page
This is the page you come when you click on Wiki in the left-side panel. 
At the moment, there are only 7 links to other wiki pages. Do we really 
only have that amount of pages?

What I propose is that we turn both of these (or merge using redirects) 
into a page with:
a) a more attractive layout, e.g. some small images would not do any harm.
b) more discoverable content. This would involve splitting the page into
sections. Each section has links to relevant content, or if there are a 
lot of links in a section, add a 'More...' link that goes to the section 
page.

An obvious example of what I am talking about is the devmo setup:
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Main_Page

I am not familiar with (our) drupal layout options, but am willing to learn.

One good start might be to break
http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs into multiple documents.

If anyone is willing to help out, or even if you have some ideas on how 
to improve things, please contribute in the bug:

https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=18812

Thanks,
- Brian

From brian at mozdev.org  Mon Mar 17 11:30:11 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:30:11 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Happy St. Patricks Day from Mozdev
Message-ID: <47DEB8B3.8070001@mozdev.org>

Sincerely!

http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Happy-St-Patricks-Day-Mozdev

- Brian

From John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com  Mon Mar 17 12:44:22 2008
From: John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com (John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:44:22 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] John Sgouridis/it/CHI/F-I is out of the office.
Message-ID: <OFC5EF18C6.23CFC09D-ON8625740F.006C6EA8-8625740F.006C6EA8@fitchratings.com>


I will be out of the office starting  03/17/2008 and will not return until
03/19/2008.

I will be out of the office  Please contact Jefferey Saiger or Michael
Washington in case of emergency


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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Mar 18 12:36:09 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:36:09 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page/secure install beta testers
	needed
Message-ID: <200803181536.09284.silfreed@silfreed.net>

We now have a project overview page that allows secure installation of files
that are registered as extensions (.xpi files with install.rdf manifests).

If you would like to help us test this out, the procedure for adding a
publically released, verified file goes like this:

1) Upload an extension to your project in the downloads/ directory.  Be sure 
to
compute a sha1 or md5 hash and save it for later.
Your extension (if not previously shown) will show up on the application page 
under the correct supported app:
http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications.html

2) Login to Mozdev.org's file management and release your new file and verify 
the hash (md5 or sha1 is determined automatically): [link]

3) Browse to your project overview and see your extension list collapsed with 
the new version linked to: [links]


We plan on linking to the project overview page from lists that are generated
on www.mozdev.org so that it's easier for users to find all relevant links for
a project.

Please contact me off-list if you are interested in helping test this
out and I will get you the proper URLs to test at.

Please see bug#17302 [1] for more details;

-Doug

[1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=17302

-- 
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Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org
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From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 19 13:21:10 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:21:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] ALERT: Do you use mozIJSSubScriptLoader?
Message-ID: <682325.42448.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If you use code like this to dynamically load JS files at runtime:
var loader = Components.classes["@mozilla.org/moz/jssubscript-loader;1"]
                       .getService(Components.interfaces.mozIJSSubScriptLoader);
loader.loadSubScript("file:///foo.js", obj)your code will not work with FF 3.0 as of the 18 March 2008 nightly build.

Going forward, mozIJSSubScriptLoader only works with chrome: scheme URLs. This will be in FF 3.0b5, and there is talk to backport it to 1.8 (Firefox 2.0.0.14). Needless to say, this has broken a lot of extensions. Heads-up if yours is one of them.

Read more at Mark's blog post: http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/03/extension-developers-breaking-news-part-2/
or discuss at irc.mozilla.org#extdev

Eric Jung





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From godmar at gmail.com  Wed Mar 19 19:53:45 2008
From: godmar at gmail.com (Godmar Back)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:53:45 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] migration path for non-compliant extensions from
	FF2 to FX3 does not work as advertised
Message-ID: <719dced30803191953n57784ab9oa8ece34dad9a6825@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

the advertised way to transition into extensions that provide a secure
update path does not appear to work in FF3.0b4.

I implemented secure updates using spock, and tested this
implementation. It works fine, both in FF2.0 and FF3.0b4, if I
manually go to Tools -> Add-On -> Check for updates.

However, when I start FF3.0b4 for the first time, the following happens:
FF3.0b4 detects that the installed extension is non-compliant; offers
to check for updates (why, btw, does the user have to click here?
Previous FF updates, to my knowledge, checked unprompted.)

I check for updates, it finds an update, I install it, the
installation appears to succeed, however, when I restart FF3.0b4, the
extension is still disabled. [ If I subsequently go to Tools->Add-Ons
and check for updates, it'll find the update, install it, and
reactivate it on the following restart. ]

Clearly, this is not uninterrupted service. I'm wondering if I am
doing something wrong - has anybody else tested this important
scenario and found it to work?

Thanks!

 - Godmar

[1] For those who want to test it:
http://libx.org/editions/5C/FB/5CFB7B98.1/libx-5CFB7B98.xpi
(this is a build of libx.mozdev.org code, see libx.org)

From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 20 14:08:00 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:08:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] migration path for non-compliant extensions
	from FF2 to FX3 does not work as advertised
Message-ID: <162762.85425.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

FYI, Godmar opened a bug about this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424107


----- Original Message ----
> From: Godmar Back <godmar at gmail.com>
> To: Mozdev Project Owners List <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:53:45 PM
> Subject: [Project_owners] migration path for non-compliant extensions from FF2 to FX3 does not work as advertised
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the advertised way to transition into extensions that provide a secure
> update path does not appear to work in FF3.0b4.
> 
> I implemented secure updates using spock, and tested this
> implementation. It works fine, both in FF2.0 and FF3.0b4, if I
> manually go to Tools -> Add-On -> Check for updates.
> 
> However, when I start FF3.0b4 for the first time, the following happens:
> FF3.0b4 detects that the installed extension is non-compliant; offers
> to check for updates (why, btw, does the user have to click here?
> Previous FF updates, to my knowledge, checked unprompted.)
> 
> I check for updates, it finds an update, I install it, the
> installation appears to succeed, however, when I restart FF3.0b4, the
> extension is still disabled. [ If I subsequently go to Tools->Add-Ons
> and check for updates, it'll find the update, install it, and
> reactivate it on the following restart. ]
> 
> Clearly, this is not uninterrupted service. I'm wondering if I am
> doing something wrong - has anybody else tested this important
> scenario and found it to work?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>  - Godmar
> 
> [1] For those who want to test it:
> http://libx.org/editions/5C/FB/5CFB7B98.1/libx-5CFB7B98.xpi
> (this is a build of libx.mozdev.org code, see libx.org)
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
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From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 22 06:31:53 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:31:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Fw: ALERT: Do you use mozIJSSubScriptLoader?
Message-ID: <210351.87717.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Update. You can again use file:// and resource:// URIs, but data:// still isn't permitted.


----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Mark Finkle <mark.finkle at gmail.com>

> 
> A new patch has landed that allows file: and resource: URIs to work
> again. See my followup blog post:
> http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/03/extension-developers-unbreaking-news-part-2/
> 
> Mark Finkle






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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Sat Mar 22 08:46:41 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:46:41 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Fw: ALERT: Do you use mozIJSSubScriptLoader?
In-Reply-To: <210351.87717.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <210351.87717.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47E529E1.2030504@heroes-addon.dk>

Would it be possible to read a js file, put it into a variable then eval 
that from the local drive?

Eric H. Jung wrote:
> Update. You can again use file:// and resource:// URIs, but data:// still isn't permitted.
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>   
>> From: Mark Finkle <mark.finkle at gmail.com>
>>     
>
>   
>> A new patch has landed that allows file: and resource: URIs to work
>> again. See my followup blog post:
>> http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/03/extension-developers-unbreaking-news-part-2/
>>
>> Mark Finkle
>>     
>
>
>
>
>
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Mon Mar 24 06:52:35 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:52:35 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
Message-ID: <47E7B223.6090809@heroes-addon.dk>

Hello

Was looking at the downloadsNoFmt() once again, and as its written, then 
downloads No Format shouldn't have any formating code assigned to it.
But it instead it outputs this:

<span class="download_count">16</span>
While the expected result would be:
16

Resulting in a longer "Total downloads" script:
<script>
var f01 = '<span class="download_count">16</span>';
n01 = f01.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f02 = '<span class="download_count">19</span>';
n02 = f02.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f03 = '<span class="download_count">14</span>';
n03 = f03.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f04 = '<span class="download_count">17</span>';
n04 = f04.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f051 = '<span class="download_count">113</span>';
n051 = f051.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f052 = '<span class="download_count">38</span>';
n052 = f052.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f053 = '<span class="download_count">10</span>';
n053 = f053.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f054 = '<span class="download_count">17</span>';
n054 = f054.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f055 = '<span class="download_count">37</span>';
n055 = f055.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f0551 = '<span class="download_count">43</span>';
n0551 = f0551.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f0552 = '<span class="download_count">19</span>';
n0552 = f0552.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];
var f05521 = '<span class="download_count">139</span>';
n05521 = f05521.match(/<span class=\"download_count\">(.*?)<\/span>/)[1];

counting = Math.abs(0-n01-n02-n03-n04-n051-n052-n053-n054-n055-n0551-n0552-n05521);

document.write(counting);
</script>

For which it would be easier to just add them together.

What do you fellas and girls think?

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Mon Mar 24 07:01:31 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:01:31 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
In-Reply-To: <47E7B223.6090809@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <47E7B223.6090809@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <200803241001.35257.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Monday 24 March 2008 09:52:35 Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> Was looking at the downloadsNoFmt() once again, and as its written, then
> downloads No Format shouldn't have any formating code assigned to it.
> But it instead it outputs this:
>
> <span class="download_count">16</span>
> While the expected result would be:
> 16
[snip]
> What do you fellas and girls think?

When I fixed the downloads() and downloadNoFmt() functions I took the original 
functions to be to display a download count with and without the project name 
(respectively), not that one shouldn't have any HTML wrapping.

I don't mind fixing downloadNoFmt() if there aren't any objections.  Another 
solution would be to add a downloadsCounter() function that only displays the 
counter.

It also looks like you'd like a count of all downloads; possibly for your 
entire project or perhaps for a specific directory; either of these would be 
fairly easy for us to add, we just haven't had the request yet.

-Doug

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From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 24 07:19:33 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
Message-ID: <626016.43265.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


> When I fixed the downloads() and downloadNoFmt() functions I took the original 
> functions to be to display a download count with and without the project name 
> (respectively), not that one shouldn't have any HTML wrapping.
> 
> I don't mind fixing downloadNoFmt() if there aren't any objections.  Another 
> solution would be to add a downloadsCounter() function that only displays the 
> counter.
> 

Makes sense to me. 

> It also looks like you'd like a count of all downloads; possibly for your 
> entire project or perhaps for a specific directory; either of these would be 
> fairly easy for us to add, we just haven't had the request yet.


That would be convenient.






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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Mon Mar 24 07:21:12 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:21:12 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
In-Reply-To: <200803241001.35257.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <47E7B223.6090809@heroes-addon.dk>
	<200803241001.35257.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47E7B8D8.5050300@heroes-addon.dk>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> On Monday 24 March 2008 09:52:35 Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
>   
>> Was looking at the downloadsNoFmt() once again, and as its written, then
>> downloads No Format shouldn't have any formating code assigned to it.
>> But it instead it outputs this:
>>
>> <span class="download_count">16</span>
>> While the expected result would be:
>> 16
>>     
> [snip]
>   
>> What do you fellas and girls think?
>>     
>
> When I fixed the downloads() and downloadNoFmt() functions I took the original 
> functions to be to display a download count with and without the project name 
> (respectively), not that one shouldn't have any HTML wrapping.
>
> I don't mind fixing downloadNoFmt() if there aren't any objections.  Another 
> solution would be to add a downloadsCounter() function that only displays the 
> counter.
>
> It also looks like you'd like a count of all downloads; possibly for your 
> entire project or perhaps for a specific directory; either of these would be 
> fairly easy for us to add, we just haven't had the request yet.
>
> -Doug
>   

Would probably be best to make a new version of downloadsNoFmt to comply 
with users already using it.
Is it possible for the mozdev admins to search through files to see 
who's already using it?

From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 24 13:39:51 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:39:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
Message-ID: <545068.43679.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


----- Original Message ----
> From: Douglas E. Warner <silfreed at silfreed.net> 
> It also looks like you'd like a count of all downloads; possibly for your 
> entire project or perhaps for a specific directory; either of these would be 
> fairly easy for us to add, we just haven't had the request yet.



That would be nice so that counting downloads for multiple versions would be easy. Should I open a bz bug?



 




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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Mon Mar 24 14:40:56 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:40:56 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
In-Reply-To: <545068.43679.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <545068.43679.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200803241740.56949.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Monday 24 March 2008 16:39:51 Eric H. Jung wrote:
> That would be nice so that counting downloads for multiple versions would
> be easy. Should I open a bz bug?

Sure, that'd be fine.

-Doug

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Mar 25 09:04:54 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:04:54 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Reminder: Mozdev PHP 5 upgrade scheduled for March
	31st
Message-ID: <200803251204.54523.silfreed@silfreed.net>

Repost from 2008.02.29 [3]:

Mozdev.org is looking to update its web server stack from Apache 1.3 and PHP 4 
to Apache 2.2 and PHP 5.  The main reason for doing this is to be running 
supported versions of software, as well as providing security and feature 
improvements.

We have been testing the software out on our staging server at vebzom.org and 
are ready to move onto the next stage of testing.  We would like project 
owners to test out their sites to ensure things will be ready for the 
cutover.

The biggest changes with PHP 5 will be the default setting of PHP's 
register_globals and register_long_arrays flags to "off".  See our previous 
thread for information about the implications and some work-arounds [1].

If you are interested in following developments please sign up to bug#15312 
[2].  Let us know if you have any concerns/questions or need any help trying 
to get things cleaned up.  We'd like to make this move as smooth as possible 
while getting our web server stack up to current versions.

-Doug

[1] http://mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/2008-January/010878.html
[2] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=15312
[3] http://mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/2008-February/011114.html

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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Tue Mar 25 10:05:15 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:05:15 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
In-Reply-To: <200803241740.56949.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <545068.43679.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200803241740.56949.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47E930CB.8010902@heroes-addon.dk>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> On Monday 24 March 2008 16:39:51 Eric H. Jung wrote:
>   
>> That would be nice so that counting downloads for multiple versions would
>> be easy. Should I open a bz bug?
>>     
>
> Sure, that'd be fine.
>
> -Doug
>   
Added as bug 18846[1].


[1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=18846

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Mar 25 11:01:46 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:01:46 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
In-Reply-To: <47E930CB.8010902@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <545068.43679.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200803241740.56949.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<47E930CB.8010902@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <200803251401.46933.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Tuesday 25 March 2008 13:05:15 Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> Added as bug 18846[1].
> [1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=18846

Thanks; this should be fixed and documented here [1]

You should have the following new functions:
downloadsCounterOnly() which will echo the counter without any HTML wrapping
downloadsProjectTotals() which will return the total downloads for a project
for the last 30 days (rolling total)

-Doug

[1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDownloadCounters

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Wed Mar 26 11:11:36 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:11:36 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
	Project overview pages, and file release system
Message-ID: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net>

Mozdev.org has released a number of new features to allow projects to securely 
install their applications and allow users to find information about projects 
easier.

Each project has an overview page that prominently displays links to all of a 
projects tools as well as highlighting each of a project's extensions and 
their latest releases.  Since this page is served from a secure site the 
extensions linked from this page make use of InstallTrigger to verify that 
the file is downloaded correctly by comparing the file's hash.

Each project's overview page is at a URL with the following format:
https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/PROJECT/
ex: https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/www/

In order to have your extensions linked from this page, you'll need to make 
use of our new file management tool to mark files as released and verify the 
hash for the file (documentation [2]):
https://www.mozdev.org/profile/file_management.html

Mozdev will be linking to the new project overview page from the main 
www.mozdev.org site in various locations such as the active project list and 
top 50 page.

We hope this new feature brings both project owners and users a new level of 
comfort knowing the extensions are installed properly and enables users to 
find project information more quickly.

-Doug

[1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=17302
[2] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDownloadReleases

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From philip.chee at gmail.com  Thu Mar 27 03:42:49 2008
From: philip.chee at gmail.com (Philip Chee)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:42:49 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
 Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fsftk5$15iq$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

On 27/03/2008 02:11, Douglas E. Warner wrote:

> Each project's overview page is at a URL with the following format:
> https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/PROJECT/
> ex: https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/www/
....
> In order to have your extensions linked from this page, you'll need to make 
> use of our new file management tool to mark files as released and verify the 
> hash for the file (documentation [2]):
> https://www.mozdev.org/profile/file_management.html

Hmm. Why are some XPIs listed under "Other Files"

<https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/xsidebar/>

Phil

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Thu Mar 27 05:34:14 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:34:14 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
	Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <fsftk5$15iq$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<fsftk5$15iq$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <200803270834.14393.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Thursday 27 March 2008 06:42:49 Philip Chee wrote:
> Hmm. Why are some XPIs listed under "Other Files"
>
> <https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/xsidebar/>

Most likely they don't have install.rdf files and are not parsable right now.  
It's still possible for you to utilize the secure installation features for 
these files, but they won't be automatically categorized like extensions with 
the install manifest.

-Doug

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From philip at aleytys.pc.my  Thu Mar 27 10:28:39 2008
From: philip at aleytys.pc.my (Philip Chee)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:28:39 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
 Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <mailman.245.1206621266.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<fsftk5$15iq$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.245.1206621266.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fsgld4$1cv8$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:34:14 -0400, Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> On Thursday 27 March 2008 06:42:49 Philip Chee wrote:
>> Hmm. Why are some XPIs listed under "Other Files"

>> <https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/xsidebar/>

> Most likely they don't have install.rdf files and are not parsable right now.  
> It's still possible for you to utilize the secure installation features for 
> these files, but they won't be automatically categorized like extensions with 
> the install manifest.

With the exception of platform.xpi, the other XPIs in this category do
have an install.rdf. Is there anyway to determine how these install.rdf
files are failing in your parser? Otherwise it's rather hard to fix the
problem at my end.

Phil

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From mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 12:29:59 2008
From: mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com (Michael Vincent van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:29:59 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
 Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fsgsjp$2hfn$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Mozdev.org has released a number of new features to allow projects to securely 
> install their applications and allow users to find information about projects 
> easier.
> 
> Each project has an overview page that prominently displays links to all of a 
> projects tools as well as highlighting each of a project's extensions and 
> their latest releases.  Since this page is served from a secure site the 
> extensions linked from this page make use of InstallTrigger to verify that 
> the file is downloaded correctly by comparing the file's hash.
> 
> Each project's overview page is at a URL with the following format:
> https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/PROJECT/
> ex: https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/www/
> 
> In order to have your extensions linked from this page, you'll need to make 
> use of our new file management tool to mark files as released and verify the 
> hash for the file (documentation [2]):
> https://www.mozdev.org/profile/file_management.html
> 
> Mozdev will be linking to the new project overview page from the main 
> www.mozdev.org site in various locations such as the active project list and 
> top 50 page.

But what if I need/want to add additional installation tip/information?

> We hope this new feature brings both project owners and users a new level of 
> comfort knowing the extensions are installed properly and enables users to 
> find project information more quickly.

Comfort is when things work and make things easier, but that is not the 
case currently.  It might work, great, but I don't want people to 
install from any location other than out installation page so I will not 
use it/discourage people to use it.


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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Fri Mar 28 02:31:27 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:31:27 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
 Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47ECBAEF.3030001@gmail.com>

Hi,

Can you add file_management.html url to the 
https://www.mozdev.org/profile/index.html ?
And after submitting files, you end up in an empty 
file_managment_actions.php. It would be better to return to the project 
selection page.

I don't really see why end-users would believe they now have safe 
downloads. To the user, the only thing that has changed, is that they 
can start the download from a secure website, but they can't see that 
the file is also verified and they cannot verify the file themselves, 
since you don't display the md5sum. The download itself is still from an 
unsecure website, so the user could download another file than he thinks.

Onno

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Mozdev.org has released a number of new features to allow projects to securely 
> install their applications and allow users to find information about projects 
> easier.
>
> Each project has an overview page that prominently displays links to all of a 
> projects tools as well as highlighting each of a project's extensions and 
> their latest releases.  Since this page is served from a secure site the 
> extensions linked from this page make use of InstallTrigger to verify that 
> the file is downloaded correctly by comparing the file's hash.
>
> Each project's overview page is at a URL with the following format:
> https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/PROJECT/
> ex: https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/www/
>
> In order to have your extensions linked from this page, you'll need to make 
> use of our new file management tool to mark files as released and verify the 
> hash for the file (documentation [2]):
> https://www.mozdev.org/profile/file_management.html
>
> Mozdev will be linking to the new project overview page from the main 
> www.mozdev.org site in various locations such as the active project list and 
> top 50 page.
>
> We hope this new feature brings both project owners and users a new level of 
> comfort knowing the extensions are installed properly and enables users to 
> find project information more quickly.
>
> -Doug
>
> [1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=17302
> [2] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDownloadReleases
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Fri Mar 28 03:00:07 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:00:07 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Suggestion to correct downloadsNoFmt()
In-Reply-To: <200803251401.46933.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <545068.43679.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<200803241740.56949.silfreed@silfreed.net>	<47E930CB.8010902@heroes-addon.dk>
	<200803251401.46933.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47ECC1A7.9070504@heroes-addon.dk>

Could downloadsProjectTotals() be with wildcards?
Like: downloadsFilesTotals("/ext1*.xpi");
and downloadsFilesTotals("/ext2*.xpi");

Would it be relevant for projects with multiply project files in download?

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 March 2008 13:05:15 Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
>   
>> Added as bug 18846[1].
>> [1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=18846
>>     
>
> Thanks; this should be fixed and documented here [1]
>
> You should have the following new functions:
> downloadsCounterOnly() which will echo the counter without any HTML wrapping
> downloadsProjectTotals() which will return the total downloads for a project
> for the last 30 days (rolling total)
>
> -Doug
>
> [1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDownloadCounters
>
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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Fri Mar 28 06:03:25 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:03:25 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
	Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <47ECBAEF.3030001@gmail.com>
References: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<47ECBAEF.3030001@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200803280903.32540.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Friday 28 March 2008 05:31:27 Onno Ekker wrote:
> Can you add file_management.html url to the
> https://www.mozdev.org/profile/index.html ?

Done, thanks;  It was previously linked from the "All Resources" page, but I 
missed this one.

> And after submitting files, you end up in an empty
> file_managment_actions.php. It would be better to return to the project
> selection page.

This isn't the desired action, but I haven't been able to duplicate it.  Could 
you send me some more details about your workflow off-list?

> I don't really see why end-users would believe they now have safe
> downloads. To the user, the only thing that has changed, is that they
> can start the download from a secure website, but they can't see that
> the file is also verified and they cannot verify the file themselves,
> since you don't display the md5sum. The download itself is still from an
> unsecure website, so the user could download another file than he thinks.

The security comes from using InstallTrigger which will verify the hash 
against the downloaded file for the user automatically.  This hash is served 
from a secure website, therefore the hash can be trusted.  The file can then 
be downloaded from anywhere and compared against the trusted hash.

-Doug

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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Fri Mar 28 08:04:21 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:04:21 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
 Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <200803280903.32540.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net>	<47ECBAEF.3030001@gmail.com>
	<200803280903.32540.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <47ED08F5.3010708@gmail.com>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> On Friday 28 March 2008 05:31:27 Onno Ekker wrote:
>   
>> I don't really see why end-users would believe they now have safe
>> downloads. To the user, the only thing that has changed, is that they
>> can start the download from a secure website, but they can't see that
>> the file is also verified and they cannot verify the file themselves,
>> since you don't display the md5sum. The download itself is still from an
>> unsecure website, so the user could download another file than he thinks.
>>     
>
> The security comes from using InstallTrigger which will verify the hash 
> against the downloaded file for the user automatically.  This hash is served 
> from a secure website, therefore the hash can be trusted.  The file can then 
> be downloaded from anywhere and compared against the trusted hash.
>   
Ah. Now I get it. I missed the link with InstallTrigger:
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Installing_Extensions_and_Themes_From_Web_Pages

So it's for Installing only. And then probably only for Firefox (and 
Seamonkey / Mozilla,...) extensions / themes, but not for Thunderbird 
Extensions. The xpis I added and verified were Thunderbird only 
extensions, so that will probably have very limited use...

Onno

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Fri Mar 28 08:42:51 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:42:51 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
	Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <47ED08F5.3010708@gmail.com>
References: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<200803280903.32540.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<47ED08F5.3010708@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200803281142.51939.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Friday 28 March 2008 11:04:21 Onno Ekker wrote:
> So it's for Installing only. And then probably only for Firefox (and
> Seamonkey / Mozilla,...) extensions / themes, but not for Thunderbird
> Extensions. The xpis I added and verified were Thunderbird only
> extensions, so that will probably have very limited use...

That's unfortunate that it doesn't help out Thunderbird.  If you run across 
anything that points out how we could help with that let me know.

-Doug

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Fri Mar 28 08:49:19 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:49:19 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
	Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <fsgld4$1cv8$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<mailman.245.1206621266.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<fsgld4$1cv8$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <200803281149.19658.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Thursday 27 March 2008 13:28:39 Philip Chee wrote:
> With the exception of platform.xpi, the other XPIs in this category do
> have an install.rdf. Is there anyway to determine how these install.rdf
> files are failing in your parser? Otherwise it's rather hard to fix the
> problem at my end.

mods/content_preferences-0.3.1-mod.xpi:
install.rdf:32:4: mismatched tag

mods/derbrowsertimer-0.4-mod.xpi:
install.rdf:44:2: mismatched tag

mods/search_engine_wizard-0.2.2.2-mod.xpi
mods/stylish-0.4-mod.xpi
- these install.rdf's seem to parse fine, it's probible it's failing farther 
along in the process.  I'll look into this more and get back to you.

-Doug

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Fri Mar 28 11:09:30 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:09:30 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
	Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <200803281149.19658.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<fsgld4$1cv8$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<200803281149.19658.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <200803281409.30407.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Friday 28 March 2008 11:49:19 Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> mods/search_engine_wizard-0.2.2.2-mod.xpi
> mods/stylish-0.4-mod.xpi
> - these install.rdf's seem to parse fine, it's probible it's failing
> farther along in the process. ?I'll look into this more and get back to
> you.

This was a bug in my parser that required an extension description; it's been 
fixed so you'll need to re-release these files.

-Doug

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From philip.chee at gmail.com  Fri Mar 28 11:09:32 2008
From: philip.chee at gmail.com (Philip Chee)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:09:32 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions,
 Project overview pages, and file release system
In-Reply-To: <mailman.257.1206719372.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.237.1206555107.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<mailman.245.1206621266.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<fsgld4$1cv8$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.257.1206719372.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fsjc5n$gkb$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:49:19 -0400, Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> On Thursday 27 March 2008 13:28:39 Philip Chee wrote:

>> With the exception of platform.xpi, the other XPIs in this category do
>> have an install.rdf. Is there anyway to determine how these install.rdf
>> files are failing in your parser? Otherwise it's rather hard to fix the
>> problem at my end.

> mods/content_preferences-0.3.1-mod.xpi:
> install.rdf:32:4: mismatched tag

> mods/derbrowsertimer-0.4-mod.xpi:
> install.rdf:44:2: mismatched tag

Thanks Doug.

Phil

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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Fri Mar 28 12:45:35 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:45:35 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1204828459.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.2.1204828459.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fsjht1$1dg1$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Something Mozdev.org has lacked for awhile now has been a project overview 
> page that shows you a nice overview of a project with links to tools for a 
> project as well as some basic information and stats.
> 
> As part of working on secure installations for projects I needed a page that 
> showed the available downloads for a project and I thought it would be a good 
> time to put together a page that had a little more information on it as well.
> 
> Mockup [1]
> 
> There's a lot going on in this mockup; we have:
> * Project name and description
> * Project's tags
> * Links to available tools
> * Project activity
> * Project stats (downloads, page views, hits)
> * Extensions a project publishes
> * Files that have been released by a project
> * Secure installation of extensions
> 
> With all this information there (and potentially more in the future) we want 
> to make sure it's not too crowded and that the information is relevant.
> 
> Let us know if you have any suggestions on how we can tweak things to make the 
> information more usable for both people browsing for a project and for 
> developers.
> 
> -Doug
> 
> [1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/files/www/project-overview-mockup.png
> 

The new secure downloads feature seems to be a nice start of the mockup 
function!
https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/www/

I have only a small little problem with it, and that's the icon that is 
displayed in front of the home url: It looks like a small man or 
something, because the sides of the roof get rounded. Only when you view 
the image full size, you see that it's a house! It's a 19x16 image and 
Firefox doesn't resize it nicely to 14x12.

<img src="https://www.mozdev.org/i/stick-home-16.png" width="14" 
height="12" alt="" />

Please use the proper image, it's there already:
https://www.mozdev.org/i/stick-home-12.png

Onno

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Sat Mar 29 02:22:17 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:22:17 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Project tagging available
In-Reply-To: <579542.61857.qm@web33004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <579542.61857.qm@web33004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47EE0A49.5000304@gmail.com>

David Boswell wrote:
>> For tags with only one project, it might not be worth displaying them
>> on the front page. But I don't think they should be banned.
>>     
>
> Thanks for your comments about this and I think your suggestion sounds
> reasonable.  As the number of projects using the tagging system
> increases, I assume we'll run into other issues, so I think that we
> should come up with some guidelines for how the tagging system should
> be administered that are agreed on by a majority of the project owners.
>  If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions about this, feel free to
> reply.  Or we could set up a wiki page to start drafting some
> guidelines there.
>   
Is anything happerning on this front?

Some time ago I have tried changing the tags for my project Forward, but 
I ended up with all my tags being removed. Now I just have the standard 
tags: Extension, Thunderbird. I'd like to be able to add some tags to 
describe what my extension does, even if they don't show up in the 
cloud. I've tried a couple of times to add tags on the Project Tagging 
page, but to no avail.

I can understand there's some kind of approval period or maybe some 
words are blacklisted or censored, but at the moment the whole process 
seems quite unclear and the project owners don't have any means to see 
what's happening with their tags and why.

Onno

From netbrat_rahul at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 29 02:35:40 2008
From: netbrat_rahul at yahoo.com (Rahul Lohia)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:05:40 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Project_owners] newbie
Message-ID: <344150.50613.qm@web94715.mail.in2.yahoo.com>

Hey all,
I have gotta browser extension "PASSPET" from the mozdev site.
My project is almost on the same lines.
I am new to this open source software development.
I am currently experiencing problems with how to install the extension on my windows machine.
I have a step by step doc of what is to be done. but it doesnt work.
Please help me get started.
any good xul editor to understand the scripting in less possible time.




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From varun21 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 29 07:18:27 2008
From: varun21 at gmail.com (Shivanand Sharma / Varun)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:48:27 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] newbie
In-Reply-To: <344150.50613.qm@web94715.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
References: <344150.50613.qm@web94715.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1a9fd9700803290718r2a584b85u4c4090df9d229d23@mail.gmail.com>

Rahul,

Do a google search for ted's extension developer extension. it has an xul
editor and has everything to get you started with extension development.
Also take a look at http://kb.mozillazine.org and
http://developer.mozilla.org

Regards
Shivanand Sharma

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Rahul Lohia <netbrat_rahul at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Hey all,
> I have gotta browser extension "PASSPET" from the mozdev site.
> My project is almost on the same lines.
> I am new to this open source software development.
> I am currently experiencing problems with how to install the extension on
> my windows machine.
> I have a step by step doc of what is to be done. but it doesnt work.
> Please help me get started.
> any good xul editor to understand the scripting in less possible time.
>
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From david at mozdev.org  Sat Mar 29 08:58:22 2008
From: david at mozdev.org (David Boswell)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:58:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Project tagging available
In-Reply-To: <47EE0A49.5000304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44685.70388.qm@web33001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Some time ago I have tried changing the tags for my project Forward,
> but I ended up with all my tags being removed.

Our tag approval process is pretty liberal right now.  If you did
submit some tags and you're not seeing them, it's possible that it is
because your project isn't listed as active right now.  

To avoid sending users to projects that are inactive or abandoned we're
only showing tags for projects that have had activity within the last
180 days.  To make your project active if it currently isn't, just make
a CVS commit or another change.

There may be other reasons why your tags aren't showing up.  Doug can
probably provide more information about that.

David

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Sat Mar 29 12:49:23 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:49:23 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page
In-Reply-To: <fsjht1$1dg1$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.2.1204828459.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<fsjht1$1dg1$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <200803291549.27795.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Friday 28 March 2008 15:45:35 Onno Ekker wrote:
> <img src="https://www.mozdev.org/i/stick-home-16.png" width="14"
> height="12" alt="" />
>
> Please use the proper image, it's there already:
> https://www.mozdev.org/i/stick-home-12.png

Thanks for catching that; fixed.

-Doug

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Mon Mar 31 12:23:23 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:23:23 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Reminder: Mozdev PHP 5 upgrade scheduled for
	March 31st
In-Reply-To: <200803251204.54523.silfreed@silfreed.net>
References: <200803251204.54523.silfreed@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <200803311523.23217.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Tuesday 25 March 2008 12:04:54 Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Mozdev.org is looking to update its web server stack from Apache 1.3 and
> PHP 4 to Apache 2.2 and PHP 5. ?The main reason for doing this is to be
> running supported versions of software, as well as providing security and
> feature improvements.

The upgrade has been rescheduled to April 1st.  We apologize for any 
complications this may cause.  Downtime is still expected to be minimal.

-Doug

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From philip.chee at gmail.com  Mon Mar 31 13:50:09 2008
From: philip.chee at gmail.com (Philip Chee)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:50:09 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Reminder: Mozdev PHP 5 upgrade scheduled for
	March 31st
In-Reply-To: <mailman.285.1206991412.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <200803251204.54523.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<mailman.285.1206991412.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <fsrime$1jeg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:23:23 -0400, Douglas E. Warner wrote:

> On Tuesday 25 March 2008 12:04:54 Douglas E. Warner wrote:
>> Mozdev.org is looking to update its web server stack from Apache 1.3 and
>> PHP 4 to Apache 2.2 and PHP 5.  The main reason for doing this is to be
>> running supported versions of software, as well as providing security and
>> feature improvements.

> The upgrade has been rescheduled to April 1st.  We apologize for any 
> complications this may cause.  Downtime is still expected to be minimal.

Of course any problems showing up on the 1st will just be assumed to be
a practical joke you are playing on mozdev project owners.

Phil

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Mon Mar 31 14:01:22 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:01:22 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Reminder: Mozdev PHP 5 upgrade scheduled for
	March 31st
In-Reply-To: <fsrime$1jeg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <200803251204.54523.silfreed@silfreed.net>
	<mailman.285.1206991412.92225.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<fsrime$1jeg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <200803311701.22357.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Monday 31 March 2008 16:50:09 Philip Chee wrote:
> Of course any problems showing up on the 1st will just be assumed to be
> a practical joke you are playing on mozdev project owners.

Unfortunately, yes.  We were trying to avoid that, but alas.

-Doug

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From John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com  Mon Mar 31 16:36:21 2008
From: John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com (John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:36:21 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] John Sgouridis/it/CHI/F-I is out of the office.
Message-ID: <OFDA52C903.F480E332-ON8625741D.0081ABEC-8625741D.0081ABEC@fitchratings.com>


I will be out of the office starting  03/31/2008 and will not return until
04/01/2008.

I will be out of the office  Please contact Jefferey Saiger or Michael
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