From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 09:48:07 2003 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (david boswell) Date: Tue Jul 15 11:54:13 2003 Subject: [Reviewers] welcome back to the reviewers list Message-ID: <20030715154807.4091.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com> mozdev was recently hit with a DOS attack that forced the site to make some changes to make it more secure. one of those changes involved upgrading our mailing list manager and recreating all active lists. a week or so ago everyone subscribed to this list received an automated welcome message. this was just the result of moving subscribers over from the old list to the new one. this list is still active and available for discussion about the 'creating applications with mozilla' book. the old list archives will be available from the books.mozdev.org site soon. they have not yet been restored but it is in the plans to make them available again. david __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From ah at numerik.uni-kiel.de Sun Jul 20 18:58:08 2003 From: ah at numerik.uni-kiel.de (Axel Hecht) Date: Sun Jul 20 18:59:47 2003 Subject: [Reviewers] xul templates bug fixed, bug 152209 Message-ID: <3F1ABC10.9090109@numerik.uni-kiel.de> Hi guys, not sure if you saw Jan's posting or were CC'ed on that bug, but just to make sure that you incorporate the changes, Jan fixed http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152209, "unnecessary distinction between "content" and "treeitem" template conditions" which eases the use of flags="dont-build-content" in XUL templates. Just so that you can update that part of books.mozdev.org Axel From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 12:16:49 2003 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (david boswell) Date: Sat Jul 26 14:17:49 2003 Subject: [Reviewers] xul templates bug fixed, bug 152209 In-Reply-To: <3F1ABC10.9090109@numerik.uni-kiel.de> Message-ID: <20030726181649.18626.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> axel, thanks for the information. i didn't hear about that, so it's good to get the news. this brings up an issue with the book's content. it was written to apply to the 1.0 release, so i'm not entirely sure how we should handle changes that come out in later Mozilla releases. if o'reilly was interested in coming out with a second printing it might be possible to update the examples and technical information to apply to the 1.4 release if that is the new baseline. we could also decide to make the online version of the book apply to any given release and then update things as needed. making the online version as current as possible sounds good to me as long as we can do it in a way that's consistent. what are other people's thoughts on updating for this bug fix and for updating the content in general? david > Hi guys, > not sure if you saw Jan's posting or were CC'ed on > that bug, but just to > make sure that you incorporate the changes, Jan > fixed > http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152209, > "unnecessary distinction between "content" and > "treeitem" template > conditions" > which eases the use of flags="dont-build-content" in > XUL templates. Just > so that you can update that part of > books.mozdev.org > > Axel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Wed Jul 30 15:43:18 2003 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (david boswell) Date: Wed Jul 30 17:44:50 2003 Subject: [Reviewers] xul templates bug fixed, bug 152209 In-Reply-To: <3F2528A9.1050101@numerik.uni-kiel.de> Message-ID: <20030730214318.85986.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> axel, > I always thought that it would be a good idea to use > CVS branches for > documentation as well. That raises the interesting > question about how to > put those branches up on a www server, but that's a > different story. > (no idea what the native format of the book is, of > course.) branching sounds like a good idea. if we do branch things, i wonder what sort of level of interest there is in bringing the whole book up to date with the 1.4 release? who on this list would be interested in helping out? david __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From ah at numerik.uni-kiel.de Mon Jul 28 16:44:09 2003 From: ah at numerik.uni-kiel.de (Axel Hecht) Date: Thu Jul 31 08:58:18 2003 Subject: [Reviewers] xul templates bug fixed, bug 152209 In-Reply-To: <20030726181649.18626.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030726181649.18626.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3F2528A9.1050101@numerik.uni-kiel.de> Hi David et al, I always thought that it would be a good idea to use CVS branches for documentation as well. That raises the interesting question about how to put those branches up on a www server, but that's a different story. (no idea what the native format of the book is, of course.) Axel david boswell wrote: > axel, > > thanks for the information. i didn't hear about that, > so it's good to get the news. > > this brings up an issue with the book's content. it > was written to apply to the 1.0 release, so i'm not > entirely sure how we should handle changes that come > out in later Mozilla releases. > > if o'reilly was interested in coming out with a second > printing it might be possible to update the examples > and technical information to apply to the 1.4 release > if that is the new baseline. > > we could also decide to make the online version of the > book apply to any given release and then update things > as needed. making the online version as current as > possible sounds good to me as long as we can do it in > a way that's consistent. > > what are other people's thoughts on updating for this > bug fix and for updating the content in general? > > david > From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Thu Jul 31 09:15:52 2003 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (david boswell) Date: Thu Jul 31 11:17:06 2003 Subject: [Reviewers] xul templates bug fixed, bug 152209 In-Reply-To: <9052568A1635ED45945678FBD29E8A55465FB8@saturn.micronav.co.uk> Message-ID: <20030731151552.58198.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com> colin, > Would it be a good idea to produce a task list of > what you want help with? i'm not sure how big of a project it would be to update the content to the 1.4 release. it might be as simple as setting up a new corrections page where we can all post specific issues that need to be updated and then we can go back through the docbook files for the updated branch and make the changes. if the changes from 1.0 to 1.4 are going to cause more significant changes in the book then we might need to rewrite sections or whole chapters. if it comes to that, we should probably assign chapters to specific people to work on and then we can all review the new content. i think it might end up needing a combination of both. i have a feeling that some chapters won't need many changes to get up to date with 1.4 but other chapters might need a big overhaul. for instance, the xul chapter would need to include information about the new phoenix toolkit so that would involve more than just updating what is already there. what do other people think of the scope in updating the content to 1.4? david __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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